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OK, so I finally joined the cult ... My wife bought me a new 20GB iPod for our third wedding anniversary. I had bought her a pink iPod Mini last year. I figure I'm not comfortable enough with my sexuality to borrow it from her for my use.
I underestimated how difficult it is to actually fill this thing with music that I would actually listen to.
So what's playing on your iPod? Here's what I have uploaded:
Pink Floyd - The Wall - Live
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
John Mayer - Heavier Things
Lenny Kravitz - Baptism
Thievery Corporation - Mirror Conspiracy & The Outernational Sound
Velvet Revolver - Contraband
Zero 7 - Simple Things & When It Falls
In a world where computerized gizmos are constantly getting more and more powerful and capable of storing more and more information, I just cant understand why people want to downgrade the quality of their audio recordings with compressed music files.
I'd rather listen to a SACD or DVD-A that is MUCH higher quality than a CD than listen to an mp3 that is lower quality than a CD.
Maybe its because I don't like sticking anything other than q-tips in my ears?????
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I do agree that it's disturbing that the iPod has about a 70% market share in the portable music player market!! That's ridiculous
What do you think it is about the iPod that has made it into such a must have gadget? Is it it's usability and design? Or is it the perfect pairing with iTunes allowing you buy music?
I forget what their sales projections are for 2006, but it's something ridiculous.
Since installing an iPod in my car, I've hardly used the radio or the CD player. The sound quality is CD-like since the compression software only removes those sounds that are inaudible to the human ear anyway. Plus, you have the convenience of having nearly your entire CD collection with you as well as the ability to download an individual song or album in an instant and play it. A six-disc changer in the boot seems pointless when you have over 1,000 songs even in an iPod Mini which I have (actually, it currently has over 1,100 songs on it at present). Plus you can take it with you when you travel or park for security purposes so you don't worry about loss of equipment or your CD collection.
I was hesitant at first but once you try it, it's hard to resist. The Apple product is outselling the competition due to its design, fit and finish and really intuitive control (the single click wheel is really easy to use even on the go and the screen is completely legible when you use the backlight).
In a world where computerized gizmos are constantly getting more and more powerful and capable of storing more and more information, I just cant understand why people want to downgrade the quality of their audio recordings with compressed music files.
I'd rather listen to a SACD or DVD-A that is MUCH higher quality than a CD than listen to an mp3 that is lower quality than a CD.
Maybe its because I don't like sticking anything other than q-tips in my ears?????
I too share your preference of high quality audio recordings. The iPod is all about convenience. Depending on the quality of the conversion/compression, the audio quality does not have to degrade much (if at all, at least audibly). The iPod (and to be fair, quite a few other high quality mp3 players) has a decoding and amplification section that is quite competent in delivering decent reproduction. While an iPod might not become your source of choice connected to a high-end stereo system, it rocks as a portable music source. Smaller than a portable CD player could ever be. A 60mW headphone amp that drives the headphones quite well. And in the car, it does not have to be any worse than a CD being played in there.
And it sure beats lugging around 300 different CDs.
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Afrikan Simba
Alex Natale
Alpha Blondy
Althea & Donna
Alton Ellis
Ang˙lique Kidjo
Anthony Johnson
Apple Gabriel
Askia Modibo
Aswad
Augustus Pablo
Aventura
Bambu Station
Banda Toro
Barrington Levy
Barry Biggs
Barry Brown
Barry Issac
Beats International
Beres Hammond
Big Youth
Big Youth & Dennis Brown
Bim Sherman
Bim Sherman meets Horace Andy
Black Roots
Black Uhuru
Blackbeard All
Bob Andy
Bob Marley
Bob Marley
Bob Marley & The Wailers
Bob Marley & The Wailers & Ups
Boris Gardner
Boy Friday
Brent Dowe
Buccaneers
Buju Banton
Bunny Wailer
Burning Spear
Bushman
Bushman Mickey Spice Beres Ham
C.J. Lewis / Phillip Leo
Carl Dawkins
Chaka Demus / Pliers
Charisma
Chezidek
Clancy Eccles
Clint Eastwood
Clinton Fearon
Cocoa Tea
Cornell Campbell
Crowded House
Culture
Cynthia Richards
Dandy Livingstone
Danny Ray
David Jahson
Daweh Congo
Dawn Penn
Dead Kennedys
Dean Fraiser
Delroy Wilson
Dennis Alcapone
Dennis Brown
Dennis Brown & John Holt
Derrick Harriott
Desmond Dekker & The Aces
Desmond Dekker & The Specials
Devo
Dicky Burton
Dillinger
Disciples
Don Carlos
Dorothy Masuka
Dread Lion
Dub Syndicate
Eation Rebel
Eddie Lovette
Eek
Eek-A-Mouse
Elvis Costello and the Attractions
Eric Donaldson
Ernest Ranglin
Errol Dunkley
Everton Blender
Fine Young Cannibals
Fred Locks
Freddie McGregor
Freddie Mcgregor, D. Brown & C
Freddie McKay
Fun Boy Three
Gang of Four
General Public
George Faith
Gladstone Anderson & The Followers
Glen Washington
Gregory Isaacs
Gregory Isaacs With Dean Frazi
Groove DeLuxe
Haiti Kassav
Half Pint
Harold Butler
Harry J Allstars
Honey Boy
Horace Andy
Hugh Griffiths
Hugh Mundell
Iba
Ini Kamoze
Inner Circle
Israel Vibration
Jackie Edwards & Push Group
Jackie Mitoo
Jackie Robinson
Jacob Miller
Jah Big
Jah Lloyd
Jah Mali
Jah Stitch
Jah Thunder
Jimmy Cliff
Jimmy Cliff And Dillinger
Jimmy London
Jimmy London
Joe Higgs
Joe Jackson
John Holt
John Holt
Johnnie Clarke
Johnnie Osbourne
Johnny Clarke
Johnny Dread
Jr. Byles
Judge Dread
Judith Sephuma
Judy Mowatt
Junior Byles
Junior Murvin
Junior Ross And Spears
Justin Hines & The Dominoes
Keith Hudson
Ken Boothe
Kiddus I
King Sunny Ade
King Tubby
Kulcha Melody
Laurel Aitken
Lauryn Hill And Bob Marley
Lee Scratch Perry
Leroy Sibbles
Leroy Smart
Leroy Smart
Linton Kwesi Johnson
Linval Thompson
Little Roy
Lloyd Clarke
Lone Ranger
Luciano
Lucky Dube
Lytie
Mad Stuntman
Madness
Majek Fashek
Major Popular
Marcel Craig
Marcia Aitken & Trinity
Mary Black
Max Romeo
Maxi Priest
Maxi Priest / Shaggy
Melodians
Michael Palmer
Michael Prophet
Mighty Diamonds
Mike Brooks
Mike Brooks & Friends
Mikey Dread
Mikey Spice
Monty Morris
Moses I
Mr. Vegas
Musical Youth
Mykal Rose
Nadine Sutherland / Terror Fab
Nasio
Nasio & The Razor Posse
Nicky Thomas
Niney The Observer
Nora Dean
Norris Man
O Much Workload
One People
Ooklah The Moc
Pablo Gad
Papa Levi
Pato Banton
Patra
Pauline Morris
Peter Broggs
Peter Rowan
Peter Spence
Peter Tosh
Peter Tosh / The Wailers
Peter Tosh / URoy
Plastic Bertrand
Pluto Shervington
Pop Challenger (Gum Vs. Fightcrank)
Prince Alla
Prince Buster
Prince Far I
Prince Jazzbo
Ramones
Ras Imru Asha
Ray Lema
Reflective Recordings
Revelation
Revelation
Rhythm Rulers
Rhythm Rulers
Ricky Grant
Rico
Rockpile
Rocky Dawuni
Rod Taylor
Roman Stewart
Ronnie Davis
Roots Radics
Rupie Edwards All Stars
Sashamon
Scooter
Sex Pistols
Shaggy
Simaryp
Sister Carol
Sizzla And Bushman
Sizzla Feat Louie Culture
Slim Smith
Sly and Robbie
Smiley Culture
Snow
Sonia
Squeeze
Stanley & The Turbines
Steel Pulse
Steve Silk Hurley
Stranger & Gladdy
Stray Cats
Sugar Minott
Super Smurf
Susan Cadogan & The Upsetters
Sweet N Little
Sylford Walker
Tchiya Amet
The Abyssinians
The Agrovators
The Art of Noise
The B-52's
The Beat
The Bodysnatchers
The Chosen Few
The Clash
The English Beat
The Ethiopians
The Gladiators
The Heptones
The In Crowd
The Invaders
The Jam
The Maytals
The Maytones
The Meditations
The Melodians
The Paragons
The Pioneers
The Police
The Prime Of John Holt
The Royals
The Selecter
The Silvertones
The Skatalites
The Slickers
The Sowell Radics
The Special A.K.A
The Specials
The Swinging Cats
The Untouchables
The Upsetters
Third World
Tony Curtis
Tony Tribe
Toots & The Maytals
Toots Hibbert
Twinkle Brothers
U Brown
U Roy
UB40
Vern & Son
Vivian Jackson And The Defenders
Wailing Souls
Warrior King
Welton Irie
Where There Is Life
Winsome
Winston Francis
Winston Groovy
Winston Jarrett
Wyclef Jean
Yabby You
Yabby You, Mad Professor
Yellowman
Ziggy Marley
Ziggy Marley & The Melody Makers
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As usual - Greatbear is right on the money.:smile:
That darn bear is ALWAYS right on the money.
I certainly do understand that my dog is the only member of my household that is close to qualified to hear an ultra high quality SACD or DVD-A recording.
I'm still not PAYING a dime (or 99cents) for any mp3 recording though. I wouldn't even steal one!
Maybe one day someone will give me an ipod and I can transfer some of my own stuff to it and then I won't be bitter that I don't have one
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Many good comments in this thread. It really is all about the convenience for me. I travel a lot, and never having to decide which dozen or so CDs to bring is pretty liberating. I also like using the shuffle play mode most of the time - that way my iPod is like a really good radio station without ANY chatter, and with a really big playlist! (I have about 2400 songs on my 15 gig iPod, and still lots of room.)
Also, iPods can be used to listen to uncompressed .WAV files, if you're really sensitive about distortion. They take up way more space on the drive, but the choice is there. Personally, I've aged out of my "golden ears", and find MP3's pretty decent. I chose to encode mine at 160kBps rather than the default 128kBps - this seems like a good compromise of compact storage/ good fidelity.
What's playing on my iPod right now? "spirits Drifting" by Brian Eno. This from an obscure album from the early 70's that I probably would not think to bring on a trip with me, but here it is, a nice surprise on my iPod. The song before that was "Baskets" from Cake's recent Pressure Chief album, and coming up is a brand new song I got from the iTunes music store: "Don't Stop" by Brazilian Girls.
I haven't yet ordered my MINI (Looking like it might happen soon), and I plan to order the iPod adapter. I can't express how good the iPod is.
Gorillaz - Demon Days
Bell X1 - Music In Mouth
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
Louis XIV - The Best Little Secrets Are Kept
Thievery Corporation - The Cosmic Game
Damn this little iPod, I must fill it with music. burp.
Here is the list of the bands I have. Some of these are complete collections.
12 Stones
2 Unlimited
2Pac
2unlimited
3 Doors Down
311
Salt N Pepa
Abba
AC-DC
AC_DC
Adam Ant
Adam Sandler
Adina Howard
Aerosmith
Air Supply
Al Green
Al Greenwood
Albert King
Alicia Bridges
Amy Stewart
Animals
Anita Ward
Anthrax
Anthrax_Public Enemy
Armik
Attrition
Avril Lavigne
BAHAMEN
Barenaked Ladies
Bauhaus
Beastie Boys
Beatles
Bee Gees
BeeGees
Benny Goodman
Benny Goodman & His Orchestra
Bethoven
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy
Billie Holiday
Billy Joel
Biz Markie
Black Box
Black Sabbath
Blink 182
Blondie
Blood Hound Gang
Bob Marley
Bob Marley & Sublime
Bon Jovi
Bonnie Heart
Bow Wow Wow
Brad Paisley
Breaking Point
Brian Setzer
Brian Setzer Orchestra
Brooks & Dunn
Bruce Springsteen
Buckcherry
Busta Rhymes ft. Sean Paul & Spliff Star
Carlos Santana
Ce Ce Peniston
Certified
Chaka Demus
Charlie Daniels
Charlie Daniels Band
Chingy f_ Snoop & Ludacris
Christopher Cross
City High
City High feat. Eve
Claudette Ortiz_Wyclef Jean
Coal Chamber
Commodores
Compilations
Coolio
Crazytown
Creed
Crystal Waters
Culture Beat
Cypress Hill
Damn Yankees
David Bowie
DB
Dead Kennedys
Deelite
Def Leppard
Dexy's Midnight Runners
Diana Krall
Dido
Dire Straits
Disturbed
DJ Kool
DMX
Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt, Emmy Lou H
Don McLean
Donna Summer
Doobie Brothers
Dr Demento
Dr. Dre, Snoop, Daz, George Clinton
Drowning Pool
Drowning Pool f_Rob Zombie
Duran Duran
Dwight Yokam
Easy E
Ella Fitzgerald
Elton John
Elvis Presley
EMF
Enigma
Evanescence
Evanesence
Evanessence
Eve
Everclear
Everlast
Fast Ball
Fats Domino
Flaw
Fleetwood Mac
Fleetwood Mack
Foo Fighters
FooFighters
Fountains of Wayne
Frank Sinatra
Fugees
Fun Boy Three
Garbage
Garth Brooks
Gene Vincent
Genesis
George Clinton
George Clinton & Parliament
George Clinton & The P Funk
George Clinton And Parliment Funkadelic
George Thourogood - Who do you love.mp3
Gleaming Spires
Glenn Miller
Gloria Gaynor
Godfathers
Godsmack
Golden Earing
Gorrilaz
Green Day
Gretchen Wilson
Groove Theory
Guess Who
Guns 'n' Roses
Guns N' Roses
Gypsy Kings
Haircut 100
Handsome Devil
Harry Belafonte
Harry Connick, JR_
Heart
Hole
Hoobastank
Ice Cube with George Clinton
Iggy Pop
Incubus
Ini Kamoze
Injected
Interpol
Iron Maiden
iTunes
James Ingram_Linda Ronstadt
Janet Jackson
Jann Arden
Jay-Z
Jimmy Buffet
Jimmy Caravan
Joao Gilberto & Sten Gets
Joe Cocker
Joe Thompson_Odell Thompson_Tommy Thomps
John Coltrane
Johny Cash
Johny Cash & Charlie Daniel
Judas Priest
Kajagoogoo
Kansas
Kenny Chesney
Kid Rock
Kiss
Korn
L'Chaim - The Ultimate Jewish
La Bouche
Lauren Hill
Led Zeppelin
Lenny Kravitz
Les Brown_Ames Bros_
Lifer
Limp Bizkit
Linda Ronstadt
Linda Ronstadt & Aaron Neville
Linkin Park
Live
Louis Armstrong
Ludacris
Lynyrd Skynyrd
M
Marcy Playground
Mary J. Blige
Maxi Priest
Mazzy Star
Metallica
Michael McDonald
Moby
Modern English
Monkees
Mono Puff
Mushroomhead
My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult
My Playlists
M”tley Cre
N.E.R.D_
Nat King Cole
New Order
Nickelback
Nirvana
No Doubt
NWA
Offspring
Original Soundtrack
Original Television Soundtrack
OutKast
Ozzy Osborne
Ozzy Osborne; Rob Zombie
Ozzy Osbourne & Dweezil Zappa
P.O.D_
Paliament Funkadelic
Pantera
Parliament
Pearl Jam
Peggy Clinger
Peter Tosh
Petey Pablo
Phil Collins
Pink
Pink Floyd
Pm Dawn
Power Man 5000
Powerman 5000
Pras Michel feat. odb and mya
Presidents Of The United States of Ameri
Prince
Prince & The New Power Generation
Prince & The Revolution
Prodigy
Public Enemy & Anthrax
Puff Daddy & Foo Fighters
Queen
Queensryche
Rage Against the Machine
Rancid
Ravel
Ray Charles
Real Mccoy
Right Said Fred
Rob Bass
Rob Zombie
Robert Plant
Roberta Flack
Rocky Horror Picture Show
Rolf Harris
Royal Crown Revue
Rozalla
Run DMC (feat. Aerosmith)
Sade
Salt n Pepa -Do You Really Want Me.mp3
Salt n' Pepa_-_Shoop.mp3
Salt-N-Pepa - Lets Talk About Sex Baby.mp3
Salt-N-Pepa and En Vouge -- Whatta Man.mp3
Santana
Sarah Vaughan
Sarina Paris
Scorpions
Screaming Jay Hawkins
Sean Paul
Sevendust
Sex Pistols
Shabba Ranks
Shaggy
Sheryl Crow
Shreikback
Simply Red
Sir Mix A Lot
Sir Mix-A-Lot
Smash Mouth
Snow
Soft Cell
Sound Effects
Split Enz
SSG Barry Sadler
Stabbing Westward
Staind feat. Fred Durst
Stained
Steve Martin
Stevie Nicks
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Sting
Sublime
Sugar Hill Gang
Suicidal Tendencies
Sweet
System of a Down
Talk Talk
Tchaikovsky
Terence Trent D'arby
The Alarm
The Bangles
The Beatles
The Bee Gees
The Brian Setzer Orchestra
The Chemical Brothers
The Clash
The Cult
The Donnas
The Doors
The Eagles
The Gipsy Kings
The Killers
The Kinks - Picture Book.mp3
The Knack
The Offspring
The Police
The Rolling Stones
The Specials
The Strokes
The Verve
The Wallflowers
The White Stripes
The Who
Three Doors Down
Tim McGraw
Tito Puente
Toby Keith
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
Tommy Castro
Tone Loc
Tony Toni TonŠ
Tony! Toni! Ton‚!
Tool
Tupac & 50 Cent
UB40
Unknown Artist
Van Halen
Van Morisson
Vapors
Various Artists
Vaughan Brothers
Vertical Horizon
Waitresses
Weird Al
Weird Al Yankovic
White Zombie
Wilbert Harrison
Wild Cherry
Will Smith
WUTemp
Wyclef Jean
XTC
Young MC
Yung Wun featuring DMX, Lil' Flip & Davi
Zhane
ZZ Top
?_ And the Mysterians
I love my iPod. It has many wonderful attributes, but it's quite possible that its best attribute is the fact that its convenience "prompts" you to listen to stuff you wouldn't otherwise listen to, if digging through a mountain of CDs or albums were the prerequisite. Of course, I've got 17 GB of songs loaded, and goodness knows I invested some of the best minutes of my life loading those songs up -- minutes I WILL NEVER GET BACK. Aaaaargggghh! It was well worth it though.
What's on my iPod now? I was most recently listening to Ludacris and Beastie Boys but am feeling a bit Pink Martini, so that's where I'm headed next...
p.s. No need to thank me for not showing you what 17 GB worth of artists would look like pasted into this thread. It sure is fun to see other folks' lists though!
Why's it gota be an iPod huh? Why can't it be a Rio Karma?
I have mine hacked and have something like 8800 tracks on it. I couldn't go a day without it! Best $ ever spent. It plays different formats also.
MP3 (we all know how crappy this quality is. need at least 192 vbr to be good)
WMA (blah)
OGG (128k mp3 size with 192 vbr quality. freaking awesome if you ask me )
FLAC (lossless compression. about 2-1 over WAV)
WAV (duh)
Maybe some other one, but that is plenty for me!
Oh, to answer the question. New Slightly Stoopid album is what I've been jamming to. And Dashboard Confessional. And Jack Johnson. And a lot more...
Haven't made the leap to I-pod yet but have had a great time making MINI Road Mixes on MP3 cds in the HK. Seems to be all I need right now because I can burn to my desire....an all Floyd or Dave Matthews drive etc. 10hrs+ of music per disc.
This isn't a hijack of this thread just a plug for the MINI HK mp3 player which I think is a great alternative...and since mp3 is data...no skips.
Alright...I admit probably 6mo's from now I'll have an I-Pod and wonder how I ever lived without one
Anyway no desire to pull the conversation away from I-Pod...let the thread continue
Useless for you, maybe. Not useless for me and a million other people. Why do you think you're the only market?
And Greatbear is not always right.
You snobby audiophile types miss the whole point. First, a true audiophile listens to vinyl, not CDs, unless they're of the enhanced type. Second, while MP3 at 128k is nothing to write home about, it's not bad if you're not a sound snob or anal-retentive listener. Who can be an audiophile in any location other than a special environment? I mean, just how good does anything sound in a car, at work, or on a flight?
The ability to discern the difference between this set of $3,000 speaker cables and that $3,400 set is a curse not a blessing. You listeners who get off picking fly **** out of pepper are sad souls, IMHO.
The main point of the iPod, for me anyway, is music, plain and simple. I love music so I can enjoy it when I want. And, the latest AAC compression format is pretty damn good, much better than MP3. The new iPods allow other formats as well.
Lastly, a music library that does not contain Level 42 or Delerium is no library at all.
From Apple's web site:
In numerous comparison tests, AAC comes out on top. Check out these impressive results:
AAC compressed audio at 128 kbps (stereo) has been judged by expert listeners to be “indistinguishable” from the original uncompressed audio source.*
AAC compressed audio at 96 kbps generally exceeded the quality of MP3 compressed audio at 128 kbps. AAC at 128 kbps provides significantly superior performance than does MP3 at 128 kbps.*
AAC was the only Internet audio codec evaluated in the range “Excellent” at 64 kbps for all of the audio items tested in EBU listening tests.*
I'm not a guy who likes to simply "go along with the crowd" but the fact that when I leave home I can grab the pod and listen to it in the MINI through the stereo (and safely control it with the MFSW), pull it out and listen at work, and then put it in my pocket and listen to it out and about made it a no brainer choice for me. I highly doubt anyone can tell the difference between an original CD and the iPod while buzzing down the road with the windows open, and super charger screaming. If they can, they I would suggest they invest in a better sport exhaust instead of a better music player.
AAC compressed audio at 128 kbps (stereo) has been judged by expert listeners to be “indistinguishable” from the original uncompressed audio source.*
