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Old 01-30-2013, 06:19 PM
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Disc Read Error

I am getting a disc read error message on my 2005 convertible. Previous owner said he cleared his information and that it needs to be rebooted? Took it to a dealer for a convertible top recall (useless) and asked them to use a different DVD to see if its the disc or the drive. Dealer said they did not have an extra disc lying around. (HA!) They said I'd have to pay the $200 for a new disc if I wanted to try it. I asked if the disc would not read could I return it. No response.

Anyway, is it possible to get beyond the disc read error screen without having to buy a new disc?
 
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I assume we are talking about the navigation? The Mk4 laser can get weak. Yu can try a CD map for a Mk3. Note the CD and DVD lasers are not the same component.

You can also replace the optical drive mechanism for about $90. Look up your symptoms on the BMW e46 and X5 e53 forums.
 
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I assume we are talking about the navigation? The Mk4 laser can get weak. Yu can try a CD map for a Mk3. Note the CD and DVD lasers are not the same component.

You can also replace the optical drive mechanism for about $90. Look up your symptoms on the BMW e46 and X5 e53 forums.
Its a DVD drive so I am not sure a CD map will work. Is there a DIY for replacing the laser pick-up?
 
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If we are talking about the navigation then yes a CD map will work. To replace the drive mechanism you just pop the lid and unscrew the drive, disconnect the cables and swap in the new one. There is a DIY with part numbers on the BMW sites. Search google for MK4 laser replacement or similar.
 
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I ordered 65 83 9 241 764 from from bavauto.com for $112 but they sent me a DVD M3 3.5 drive which I think is 65839237706
hi, if you want to replace the DVD Drive (65 83 9 241 764), all labor is about those steps:

1. extract MK4 from its location and remove blue and (kind of) purple connector from behind - AFTER power led comes (and remain) off (about 30 - 40 sec)
2. open top case with a little help from a screwdriver (no screws at all)
3. remove (only) top 4 screws that lock dvd drive in place (TX10 as i remember)
4. gently extract dvd drive from mk4 case then remove 2 ribbon cables (one easy, other a bit tricky...have a lock)
5. connect ribbon cables to new dvd drive then put dvd drive back on case
6. put back screws and top case, put blue and purple connector back then reinsert mk4 on it's place
7. drink a beer and enjoy your well done job (along with an almost new mk4)

P.S. total labor time ~ 10 min
This procedure is described on the BMW TIS DVD and is file RA 65 90 550. The dealer parts guy could probably print it out for you. That is if the dealer is helping you. The project is very easy. Be careful unlatching the ribbon cable plugs.
link http://www.xoutpost.com/electronics/...av-unit-8.html
 
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:26 PM
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One more thing to try is simply burn a new copy of your DVD and see if it works any better. This would be equivalent to trying a different Nav disc. Burn it at the slowest speed available on your computer, and verify the copy. If the new copy doesn't work, the laser is almost certainly the problem.

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You can also replace the optical drive mechanism for about $90.
If you are comfortable with electronics and soldering, you can replace the laser itself for under $20. Search the web and eBay for Sanyo SF-HD4. Instructions here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/electronics/...-nav-unit.html
 
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Sorry to dig up the thread, I have a 2005 with the DVD NAV, I searched the parts listed above 65839241764 and 65 83 9 241 764. 65 83 9 241 764 is listed as for a 2007-2010, does anyone know if it is the same drive?
 
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If you look here it shows compatibility from 2002+ where the switch came from MK3 to MK4 for the E46 model. Furthermore the part has been superseded by 65839273194.
 
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Originally Posted by joylove
If you look here it shows compatibility from 2002+ where the switch came from MK3 to MK4 for the E46 model. Furthermore the part has been superseded by 65839273194.
Sorry, I feel a little slow... according to that chart, all of them should be compatible?
 
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:23 PM
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That is correct all are compatible. A part can be updated and superseded with a new part number, but that does not mean the older part numbers becomes inoperable.

Consider part 5 here in comparison. There are clear dates where certain part numbers are not interchangeable.
 
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Thanks, the reason I ask is that my local dealer insisted that part 65 83 9 241 764 won't work. The only other place I can find it is from another dealer who will ship. Any suggestions?
 
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Thanks, the reason I ask is that my local dealer insisted that part 65 83 9 241 764 won't work. The only other place I can find it is from another dealer who will ship. Any suggestions?
Site sponsor ECS has you covered.

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/65839273194/
 
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GREAT! Anytime I can support a sponsor!
 
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Ordered...now how do I remove the passenger seat?
 
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:04 PM
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Drop the window, pull the battery, disconnect the seat cables, undo the 4 floor fixings with a 14mm or 15mm ratchet, place a blanket or sweater over the door sill, stand the back of the seat upright or leaning forward, move the seat forward/backward to the position that envelops the seat rails the best ready for the lift-out, bend at the knees and lift up, step away and bring the chair out without hitting the paint.

Easy the 2nd time you do it.
 
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Thanks, I was just kidding about the seat... not looking forward to it but it has to be better than pulling the huge captains chair out of my Hummer to get my wife's cell phone ;-)
 
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Seat out, nav system out, cover off...wth size torque screws are holding in the DVD player? I have a lot of torque screw drivers and bits, but nothing that small...taking it to work to see if the IT guys have one that small.
 
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FYI, it is a 5 or 6 torx
 
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IT LIVES!!! It was much easier than I thought. A pointer.... don't start the car with the seat out ;-) I had to move the car and then I wanted to verify the drive worked before closing everything up. Ended up with an airbag error (light on dash). I did clear the code so everything is good.
 
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