MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - X9331 Pass-Thru Connector

Blailey · #1 11-05-2009, 02:34 PM

After reading all of the trials, tribulations and ultimate successes of the members in this forum, I’ve decided to take the plunge and upgrade the base (non-HIFI) stereo in my 09 Justa Clubman.

I am going to connect an Alpine PXE-H650 and was wondering if anyone has successfully made a pass-thru connector for the X9331? I’m trying to compile a list of parts I will need. Someone, (I believe Robin Casady) was kind enough to provide the part numbers for the male (speaker side) of the connector:

Plug Housing - 61131378137 - Holds the male pins
Male pins - 61131376193 - You need 12

I was planning on using this wire to make the connector:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...s+ICS920C.html

Is this all I need? Are there any other tools I need to make the connector? I am grateful for any guidance provided.

Robin Casady · #2 11-05-2009, 04:17 PM

Those are the plug parts I used. I'm very close to first test. I was going to finish installing lumbar support in the driver's seat first. Should do that today. May actually test it all today -- if I get up the nerve.

That isn't a pass-through connector. That just replaces one half of the X9331 connector, leaving the other side disconnected. It isn't known yet whether that is OK in the HIFI system (which I have). Schatzy62 says it works fine in his MINI, but I think he started with the standard audio.

My original plan was to make a pass-through X9331 connector. I got one built where the male and female housings were back-to-back (instead of the normal belly-to-belly connection

). However, as I put them together, I lost one connection and had to tear it apart. So, I decided to try just the male half, leaving the HIFI amp unplugged. If I have to take it to the dealer for a software upgrade, I may have to unplug my amp and plug in the HIFI amp.

My Q 450.4 amp has RCA inputs so I used a Kicker ZI44 (09ZI44) 13 ft. 4-Channel RCA Audio Interconnect Cable instead of the wires you are using. Only cost $30 and has RCA plugs attached. I just cut them off one end. The wires are rather delicate, but not much is needed for signal to the amp.

You just need the normal tools: soldering iron, needle nose pliers, etc.

Blailey · #3 11-05-2009, 11:32 PM

I think I used the wrong terminology. Maybe I should have said wiring harness. I'm planning on leaving the speaker (male) side disconnected and run new wiring to the current speaker locations. If I ever have to get the car back to stock, the original wiring will be in place.

The PXE-H650 has a harness of its own that needs to be wired to the high level input coming from the head unit. So the plan is to create a male side X9331 connector using the wire linked above and solder that to the harness for the H650. Do you think this will work?

The only car audio experience I have is the installation of a new headunit in a 94 Camry about 12 years ago. This forum is a GREAT resource and there is no way I would attempt this install with out its collective knowledge. I'm really excited to start tearing my Clubby apart

Good luck with your test run!

Robin Casady · #4 11-06-2009, 12:20 AM

Were you able to confirm that the male side is the speaker side? I'm not 100% sure on this, but that is what it looks like.

As long as you get the right pins hooked up to the right wires in the harness, it should work. That's my theory, anyway.

I got the lumbar support installed, and the seats connected to their electronic umbilical. I'm going to test tomorrow when I'm not as tired.

Robin Casady · #5 11-06-2009, 08:57 PM

Test failed. Engine wont start without the X9331 connected to the HIFI amp side of the connector. NAV comes on, can set time/date, but no engine. Unplugged my X9331 connector, plugged in the original, and the engine started.

Not sure what pins, exactly, need to be connected, but it looks like I'll have to make a true pass-through connector.

So, you will need the female parts for the X9331 connector as well as the male.

Female X9331 Housing - 61131378139
Female socket pins (you need 12) - 61131376204
Male X9331 housing - 61131378137
Male Pins - 61131376193

miniSQ · #6 11-07-2009, 03:48 AM

do a search here robin, i think it is the large brown wire.

Robin Casady · #7 11-07-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniSQ

do a search here robin, i think it is the large brown wire.

You are saying only the large brown wire needs to be passed through? I'm not sure what search criteria I would use to find which wire needs to pass through.

miniSQ · #8 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Casady

You are saying only the large brown wire needs to be passed through? I'm not sure what search criteria I would use to find which wire needs to pass through.

maybe the yellow wire? i searched titles for "start"

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ont-start.html

mjgrazi · #9 11-07-2009, 12:21 PM

In the process of installing mine right now, same setup. Should be able to let you know later today how it works out.

mjgrazi · #10 11-07-2009, 04:32 PM

Maybe not a helpful post since I didn't get finished before the sun went down, but here's what I have done today:

From the x9331, the female pins of my pass-through connect to what I believe is the output from the HU (which I'm 50% sure is correct. If not, I have the splices and the other pins to make it right). From there, the audio signals go into the harness provided with the JL Cleansweep, which is installed next to the Bluetooth unit under the driver's seat. Had to modify the tray it was in, but that wasn't hard. The other wires pass through, all with AWG16 speaker wire that I repurposed for the job. I know for a fact that with those grounds and signals passed through, the car starts just fine, but no sound.

From there, and less important to you, I have RCA cables under the carpet around the center console to an Alpine F300 4 channel amp under the passenger seat. Also have the turn on signals and power for the CS on that path. Just trying to figure out now which fuse I want to tap into for the accessory power. Any advice from someone who's done it?

Have to say the hardest part of this was running the new speaker wire through the rubber to the door. If I were to do it again, I'd seriously think about running a signal BACK to the x9331 from the amplifier for the front speakers, even though AWG20 might be borderline too small for the power.

Robin Casady · #11 11-07-2009, 11:53 PM

Finished modifying the X9331 connector, tapped fuse F31 for amp-on signal, and gave it a try. Huston, we have sound! Tomorrow I'll put a few panels back, bolt the seats back in, and set the gains on the amp.

What I did with the X9331 connector was to buy both a male and female connector. The male (holds the pins) has the Kicker 4-Channel RCA Audio Interconnect Cable connected to the audio channels. That leaves four -- Large Brown Ground, Brown & White, Large White, and Small Brown. I ran wires from these four only to my female connector. It then plugs into the car's male connector, but only gives it those four wires. No audio signals go to the HIFI amp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniSQ

maybe the yellow wire? i searched titles for "start"

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...ont-start.html

There is something not quite right about that post. First, there is no solid yellow wire. All yellows are combination colors, and they carry audio channels. Secondly, who in their right mind would put a circuit related to the starter in a loom going to an amp in the rear? I think OXYBLUECOOP was pulling a leg or two. The funny thing about it is that it is at least partially correct. If you unplug the X9331 connector in a HIFI equipped MINI, the engine wont start. I suspect it has more to do with what Dr Obnxs, Schatzy62 were saying about ground connections in post 17 & 18 of an amp turn-on thread.