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Not sure how they'd compare exactly, until someone can try out the MyTouch and let us know how it works. I'm not an Apple fan really, but the iPhone is a safe bet for Bluetooth. You should probably know that the 3GS has issues charging with the USB cable provided by MINI, but will charge in the (sold separately) armrest snap-in. Everything else should be good.
Would I be better off getting the Apple iPhone 3Gs instead of the MyTouch for bluetooth connectivity in my 2008 Clubman??
Again, thanks in advance.
The iPhone is one of the best phones out there. However, the monthly fees for the iPhone are quite a bit higher than most other cell plans. With my Palm Pre on Sprint, I save about $1,200 over two years when compared with similar iPhone plans. You might want to factor overall cost into your decision.
Not sure how they'd compare exactly, until someone can try out the MyTouch and let us know how it works. I'm not an Apple fan really, but the iPhone is a safe bet for Bluetooth. You should probably know that the 3GS has issues charging with the USB cable provided by MINI, but will charge in the (sold separately) armrest snap-in. Everything else should be good.
Just remember the iPhone does not do voice dialing.
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Anyone have any luck with the new Blackberry Tour? Mine pairs up fine, but the sound quality on the other end of the call is universally terrible. I even exchanged phones and the problem persists. Any feedback would be welcome.
I'm kinda at loose ends with a couple of problems: (2009 Clubman)
My LG (verizon) works great in my car, however I cannot get my "contact list" to show on my screen, so I have to manually use my phone to dial. (not a good thing). Mini USA says to go to verizon and ask them to let me test several of their phones in the parking lot(?) to see what will work. I haven't done that yet. I'm not sure what everyone is talking about.... with the arm rest connection? I have nav and blutooth but no armrest. What does this mean?
Also my automatic garage door opener doesn't sync with my car. I have tried everything I can think of and it just won't work!
My dealership and the salesperson don't have any solutions. HELP PLEASE
I'm kinda at loose ends with a couple of problems: (2009 Clubman)
My LG (verizon) works great in my car, however I cannot get my "contact list" to show on my screen, so I have to manually use my phone to dial. (not a good thing). Mini USA says to go to verizon and ask them to let me test several of their phones in the parking lot(?) to see what will work.
LG phones are one of the worst to work with any car not just the MINI. LG broke the bluetooth contact function back around firmware version 5 on all of their phones. V1 and V3 firmware worked and the n whenit went to V5 LG decided they would write their own form of bluetooht tha treally only works with their auxiliary equipment. Hence it no longer works with most car hands free systems.
You can check this list. It is not the "Official" MINI listing but it is the real world testing done my members here.
Some verison places will allow this others will not.
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I'm not sure what everyone is talking about.... with the arm rest connection?
Some cars come with an armrest as part of a package. If there is an arm rest there is wiring in it to allow for a phone to be placed in a cradle that will charge the phone, give passive antenna support (better reception) and in some cars with smart phone integration bring a USB port into the armrest.
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I have nav and blutooth but no armrest. What does this mean?
It means that the car is not wired for an armrest and would need a wiring harness change and an armrest added to make it work. This is very costly to do.
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Also my automatic garage door opener doesn't sync with my car. I have tried everything I can think of and it just won't work!
My dealership and the salesperson don't have any solutions. HELP PLEASE
On this subject i can not help you other than to say that the Homelink system is based on X10 technology and if you garage remote is not compatible with X10 technology it may never work.
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Just remember the iPhone does not do voice dialing.
Schatzty, would you mind clarifying? I was under the impression that the MINI's voice dialing worked with a Nav system, and with the non-nav if you recorded voice tags even though the iPhone itself doesn't support voice dialing internally.
Schatzty, would you mind clarifying? I was under the impression that the MINI's voice dialing worked with a Nav system, and with the non-nav if you recorded voice tags even though the iPhone itself doesn't support voice dialing internally.
As far as i know the iPhone, and iPhone 3G do not nativley support Voice dialing of any kind. there are however apps that allow voice dialing of the iPhone and iPhone 3G but that they are not capable of working over the Bluetooth. and the app has to be running for it to even work at all.
As for the iPhone 3GS it supposedly has voice dialing built in but again from what I have heard it can only use the microphone on the phone itself to voice dial. Plus form what I have also read you must push a button on the iPhone 3GS to set it to the voice dialing mode. Here are the instructions form Apple on voice dialing of the 3GS.
Now as for the Voice dialing in a Non NAV car. It will probably work as there should be no interference with the bluetooth on this, and it has to be recorded to the car. This should be the case for all iPhones.
As for the NAV cars from my understanding they use the phones contact list to serve as a voice dialing list but if the phone does not support voice dialing it will not work (iPhone, iPhone 3G) i also believe i read on another thread (maybe another forum) somewhere that a few people were not able to get the 3GS to work with the MINI NAV voice dialing.
SO i guess i should have actually stated "Just remember the iPhone does not do voice dialing. but it may work with the Non NAV recorded system."
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I don't think that the phone has to support voice dialing, but is handled internally by the MINI itself- just so long as it can pair as a handset and get the numbers to dial somehow (syncing for vav and programming for non-nav).
I don't think that the phone has to support voice dialing, but is handled internally by the MINI itself- just so long as it can pair as a handset and get the numbers to dial somehow (syncing for vav and programming for non-nav).
every other voice dialing system i have used (dodge, toyota, nissan) have always used the phone to do the actual dialing as there is nothing in the bluetooth spec for dialing only for only for the transfer of the voice signal to the voice dialing system in the phone.
Also when the contact list is transferred to the car (any) it is just a contact record that has a identifier to it and when the car wants to dial it tells the phone to just use that identifier. So it is actually the phone that does all the dialing.
It is kind of like a bluetooth headset. The head set is a dumb devices that just transmits the voice signal to the phone. The Phone is the part that does all the work. This is how the Bluetooth Handsfree Profile works.
The MINI supports the Bluetooth Handfree Profile and object push for transferring the contacts.
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I rarely make calls from my car, so haven't really tried this, but I was under the impression that the NAV picked up the phone numbers from the iPhone Contacts and listed them on the NAV. Then could do voice dialing from the contacts. Is that not true?
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Tried this last night in my BMW and my MINI. MINI does not have NAV so Voice dial tags must be made up. So I can not say how this will work with the NAV system.
BMW is a 2003 525iT and has the first ever ULF (bluetooth) module that BMW designed for their cars.
MINI is an April 2008 build.
Paired my Black Berry 8330 (has voice dial capabilities)
1. BMW will voice dial. (voice dial screen opens on phone)
2. Mini will only voice dial as I have made up a voice dial tag
Paired my neighbors iPhone to both cars (first gen, last software update was over a year ago).
1. BMW will not voice dial
2. Mini will not voice Dial even with voice tags made up.
Paired up Motorola E-815 (has voice dial capabilities)
1. BMW will voice dial (voice dial screen opens on phone)
2. MINI will voice dial as long as the Voice dial tags i made up are not in any way in the contact list, i.e. if name or number are in the phones contact list then it will not work, something in the software breaks the function.
Went over to her 09 Nissan Altima and the iPhone would not voice dial. Paired the BB8330 and it voice dialed (voice dial screen opens on phone)
From a bunch of other reading I have done this morning it seems that there may be two issues here.
1. Software version on the iPhone or other phone
2. software capabilities of the Car Bluetooth system.
It seems some newer iPhone software versions will allow for remote dialing from bluetooth but early versions will not. I.E. some bluetooth software can control the iPhone and dial from then external bluetooth application.
Some bluetooth applications may require the phone to do the dialing while some of the newer bluetooth kits applications will dial the phone regardless of the voice capability I.E. Parrot Bluetooth systems state that they can voice dial most (not all) phones even if it does not have voice dial capabilities.
I did read on an apple support forum that someone with an 08 MINI has a 3G phone that voice dials from the car. They did not say if they have NAV or not.
So the saga continues.
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I appreciate it a lot, but man... the last thing I wanted was another iPhone special case
I guess it's time make a new friends with every kind of iPhone/MINI combo to make some adjustments to the phone list...
Are you sure you want to do this. It seems to me like there are just to many different possible options.
3 phones X at least 3 software revisions X 2 mini conifigs (nav - non nav) X 3 mini bluetooth options (reg, ca, smart) X ? multiple Mini software revisions X who knows what else.
So with that formula there is a minimum of 54 possible combination's. and that does not include MINI software revisions and other questionable setups. And then when you add in the charging problems WOW.
My thoughts are to add a note "Voice dialing may or may not work due to software revisions on both the iPhone and the MINI."
Its kind of like the guy who complains about the 08 MINI not charging his 3GS. The MINI was built according to one charging design and then Apple went and change the charging design. Of course it will have problems working.
There will always be something to make it difficult
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You know this thread really deserves an award and recognition from MINI.
I do know that there are many of us who've benefited greatly from all the helpful posts and that never ceasing to be updated Excel file.
Great team work on display here!
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As for the NAV cars from my understanding they use the phones contact list to serve as a voice dialing list but if the phone does not support voice dialing it will not work (iPhone, iPhone 3G) i also believe i read on another thread (maybe another forum) somewhere that a few people were not able to get the 3GS to work with the MINI NAV voice dialing.
SO i guess i should have actually stated "Just remember the iPhone does not do voice dialing. but it may work with the Non NAV recorded system."
Awesome effort as noted by others, but wanted to add to the fray by noting that iPhone 3G with fairly recent software (3 mos ago w/OS 2.1, now with 3.0) voice dials with no problems from my NAV '08 MCS. This is without any effort on my part; it pulls the contact list, and I just say the name.
The volume also adjusts in call to ridiculously high levels if needed, but you have to remember to do it. At least for me, it seems that the phone volume is calibrated to whatever the radio volume happened to have been when the call is made or comes in.
Apple clearly has its issues, but so does everyone else. To each his own!
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Awesome effort as noted by others, but wanted to add to the fray by noting that iPhone 3G with fairly recent software (3 mos ago w/OS 2.1, now with 3.0) voice dials with no problems from my NAV '08 MCS. This is without any effort on my part; it pulls the contact list, and I just say the name.
This is good to know. I am not sure that anyone else has reported this much detail. Thanks
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The volume also adjusts in call to ridiculously high levels if needed, but you have to remember to do it. At least for me, it seems that the phone volume is calibrated to whatever the radio volume happened to have been when the call is made or comes in.
It should not be calibrated to the radio volume in any way. Or at least that is not how it is supposed to work according to MINI and the testing that I have done. It should retain the last call volume no mater what the radio volume was set to.
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Apple clearly has its issues, but so does everyone else. To each his own!
There are a number of other threads on this subject so lets not take that up here.
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My Palm Pre does not support voice dialing on its own. However, bluetooth voice dialing with my Pre works great in my Mini with Nav.
This is good to know. There are two options here. Can you verify the following:
1. it can dial a number if the number is read out something like:
Dial Number 1978-555-3333
2. can it dial from all contacts if read out something like:
Dial Name Joe Smith
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I bought a Samsung Jack (i637) and paired it successfully with the 2009 Mini Bluetooth package on the first try, and haven't had any issues after 4 weeks of using it.
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