Navigation & Audio Official R56 Audio System Specs
#76
It's all semantics, but it's fair to call them two speakers if they're two separate drivers, each with its own voice coil. The fact that the two drivers share a chassis is immaterial.
#77
Just so you both know, they are separate drivers. The tweeter is mounted to the grill not touching the 6x9 in any way. (at least mine were in my 09)
#78
Oh it is not mounted to the 6x9? Then i stand corrected it is a different speaker. So while someone is paying attention here... will 6x9's fit if they're 3 3/4 inches deep? i have some Alpine 6x9's that I want to put in but I don't want to tear apart the whole back end of the car just to find out that I have less than about 4"'s of mounting depth back there.
#79
#81
#83
I have the 2009 MCS Hardtop with the HIFI Premium 10-Speaker System (Non-H/K). I've read that my amplifier only has 230 watts, while the 2010-2013 H/K amplifier has 480 watts. Can I buy the H/K amplifier online and swap it out for my non-H/K amp? I'm trying to drive some Infinity Reference (2 ohm) speakers I bought to replace the 6 front speakers (tweeters, mids, and woofers) and they are a bit power hungry.
#84
I have the 2009 MCS Hardtop with the HIFI Premium 10-Speaker System (Non-H/K). I've read that my amplifier only has 230 watts, while the 2010-2013 H/K amplifier has 480 watts. Can I buy the H/K amplifier online and swap it out for my non-H/K amp? I'm trying to drive some Infinity Reference (2 ohm) speakers I bought to replace the 6 front speakers (tweeters, mids, and woofers) and they are a bit power hungry.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3618033#post3618033
#86
https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/electrical/208843-the-complete-ncs-expert-diy.html
Good luck! I saw an HK amp on eBay a couple weeks ago. Keep watch!
#87
#88
Pretty sure they're RMS. The maximum wattage is usually multiple times the RMS, and my aftermarket speakers sound perfect. They are about 40 watts each.
Last edited by theSamuel; 03-28-2013 at 09:24 PM.
#90
Here's a schpiel on the H/K system in the '10 model...
A Unique Car Deserves a Unique Sound System
MINI and Harman Kardon® both embody excellent performance, top quality, individuality and lifestyle in combination with distinctive design. Together, these two iconic brands stand for pioneering technology and passionate engineering. As partners, MINI and Harman Kardon jointly developed tailor-made sound systems that enrich the dynamic MINI driving experience with a fascinating listening experience. The uncompromising sound quality is delivered by the powerful digital Harman Kardon DSP amplifiers in Class D technology, driving ten speakers that are optimally positioned in the car and specifically adjusted for the respective MINI model. These high-performance transducers feature specially developed membrane materials. The tweeters, with metal matrix diaphragms, employ a complex sandwich structure with an aluminum core and a ceramic surface. Midrange speakers in the door panels feature Alumaprene® diaphragms that are characterized by excellent damping characteristics for a finely balanced frequency response. The new diaphragm materials ensure a careful balance between stiffness and weight.
In addition, the MINI models also use a high-performance 480-watt Class D amplifier, a power pack whose superior sound pressure level (SPL) fulfills the desire for fun and produces a richly detailed sound. Compared to the previous model, the module, which weighs only 1.3 kg, allows twice the performance; low bass tones are passed on to the speakers powerfully and precisely. Because of its superior efficiency, the amplifier radiates very little heat, rendering additional cooling unnecessary. Thus, the amplifier features very compact dimensions of just 19.2 x 11.6 x 5.2 centimeters, enabling space saving installations.
Harman Kardon is a world leader in the development and production of high-quality audio systems, and has worked with the engineers at MINI to design the perfect solution for these unique cars. It was clear from the very beginning that this was not a matter of standard solutions, as each model has its own unique set of requirements. For example, the MINI Convertible needs a system that can offer the same outstanding sound experience whether the top is up or down. With the MINI Clubman, on the other hand, the acoustic experts had to take the larger interior space into account when tuning the sound. Furthermore, the additional door on the passenger side for rear seat passengers required the development of a speaker that is specially optimized for small volumes.
The high standards of both brands were the top priority during development: The system meets the most demanding requirements of an excellent, uncompromising sound experience. Even at an early stage in the design phase, this required close cooperation between the engineers from both brands. As all interior components have a dramatic impact on acoustics, Harman Kardon engineers work on sound tuning in the different phases of vehicle development. To ensure a faithful, three-dimensional listening experience, the number, size, and position of the speakers have to be defined, and the individual components optimally tuned.
Following the complex sound tuning with Auravox, Harman’s proprietary fully automatic tuning and filtering process, new sound systems need to undergo the ultimate test: the human ear. The top acoustic experts from Harman Kardon employ direct listening tests to ensure that the results meet the brand’s high standards. Fine nuances are, of course, allowed and even desired, as the sound should exactly reflect the character of the respective MINI model and corresponding target group.
More info here:
http://www.mini.harmankardon.com/en/index.aspx
A Unique Car Deserves a Unique Sound System
MINI and Harman Kardon® both embody excellent performance, top quality, individuality and lifestyle in combination with distinctive design. Together, these two iconic brands stand for pioneering technology and passionate engineering. As partners, MINI and Harman Kardon jointly developed tailor-made sound systems that enrich the dynamic MINI driving experience with a fascinating listening experience. The uncompromising sound quality is delivered by the powerful digital Harman Kardon DSP amplifiers in Class D technology, driving ten speakers that are optimally positioned in the car and specifically adjusted for the respective MINI model. These high-performance transducers feature specially developed membrane materials. The tweeters, with metal matrix diaphragms, employ a complex sandwich structure with an aluminum core and a ceramic surface. Midrange speakers in the door panels feature Alumaprene® diaphragms that are characterized by excellent damping characteristics for a finely balanced frequency response. The new diaphragm materials ensure a careful balance between stiffness and weight.
In addition, the MINI models also use a high-performance 480-watt Class D amplifier, a power pack whose superior sound pressure level (SPL) fulfills the desire for fun and produces a richly detailed sound. Compared to the previous model, the module, which weighs only 1.3 kg, allows twice the performance; low bass tones are passed on to the speakers powerfully and precisely. Because of its superior efficiency, the amplifier radiates very little heat, rendering additional cooling unnecessary. Thus, the amplifier features very compact dimensions of just 19.2 x 11.6 x 5.2 centimeters, enabling space saving installations.
Harman Kardon is a world leader in the development and production of high-quality audio systems, and has worked with the engineers at MINI to design the perfect solution for these unique cars. It was clear from the very beginning that this was not a matter of standard solutions, as each model has its own unique set of requirements. For example, the MINI Convertible needs a system that can offer the same outstanding sound experience whether the top is up or down. With the MINI Clubman, on the other hand, the acoustic experts had to take the larger interior space into account when tuning the sound. Furthermore, the additional door on the passenger side for rear seat passengers required the development of a speaker that is specially optimized for small volumes.
The high standards of both brands were the top priority during development: The system meets the most demanding requirements of an excellent, uncompromising sound experience. Even at an early stage in the design phase, this required close cooperation between the engineers from both brands. As all interior components have a dramatic impact on acoustics, Harman Kardon engineers work on sound tuning in the different phases of vehicle development. To ensure a faithful, three-dimensional listening experience, the number, size, and position of the speakers have to be defined, and the individual components optimally tuned.
Following the complex sound tuning with Auravox, Harman’s proprietary fully automatic tuning and filtering process, new sound systems need to undergo the ultimate test: the human ear. The top acoustic experts from Harman Kardon employ direct listening tests to ensure that the results meet the brand’s high standards. Fine nuances are, of course, allowed and even desired, as the sound should exactly reflect the character of the respective MINI model and corresponding target group.
More info here:
http://www.mini.harmankardon.com/en/index.aspx
#91
Still can't believe MINI did that. Horrible idea; even though they haven't shipped that piece of s*** system in 5 years, its well deserved reputation still taints both MINI and the newer HK system. They took the great reputation of the R50/53 high end audio system and just trashed it.
Car guys will be talking about this f***** for decades.
#92
A Mini rep sent me some official figures for the audio systems in the R56. Here's the info:
Standard System:
4 channels
6 loudspeakers
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
Bandwidth: 50 Hz to 14,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 98 dB
Amplifier power: depends on radio,
4 x 15 W (4 Ohm)
HiFi System:
8 channels
10 loudspeakers
• 2 treble loudspeakers in front, 26 mm [~1 inch]
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
• 2 treble loudspeakers in rear, 26 mm [~1 inch]
Bandwidth: 40 Hz to 20,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 104 dB
Amplifier power:
•2 x 40 W (2 Ohm) Bass
•6 x 25 W (2 Ohm)
Standard System:
4 channels
6 loudspeakers
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
Bandwidth: 50 Hz to 14,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 98 dB
Amplifier power: depends on radio,
4 x 15 W (4 Ohm)
HiFi System:
8 channels
10 loudspeakers
• 2 treble loudspeakers in front, 26 mm [~1 inch]
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
• 2 treble loudspeakers in rear, 26 mm [~1 inch]
Bandwidth: 40 Hz to 20,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 104 dB
Amplifier power:
•2 x 40 W (2 Ohm) Bass
•6 x 25 W (2 Ohm)
#93
#94
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right thread but couldn't find any specific amplifier issue and reprogram the replacement amplifier unit for my 2010 R56 Mini with HK system and no sound. So I assumed it was the the amplifier.... bought a working/tested used one and didn't work then I realized some needs reprogramming. Can someone specify the reprogramming or mating the unit with a type of scanner or I have to go o Mini dealer.
Thanks-Giorgio
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