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I know but.. the way it is read many people read it as if the speakers are 2 ohm. I just wanted to clarify that fact. I believe what people have measured is the load at the amp but not the speakers individually. (As I answered in the other thread today any people believe they are 2 ohm like Themaddane)
I just don't want people wasting their time searching for 2 ohm speakers.
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I know but.. the way it is read many people read it as if the speakers are 2 ohm. I just wanted to clarify that fact. I believe what people have measured is the load at the amp but not the speakers individually. (As I answered in the other thread today any people believe they are 2 ohm like Themaddane)
I just don't want people wasting their time searching for 2 ohm speakers.
actually the way the system is set up and the poor gauge of wire that is used if you sere to actually measure the impedance at the amp connector you would find it to be more like 6.5-7 ohms DC and higher than that at frequencies from 20Hz to 20KHz. so searching for two ohm speakers is not really a problem it si just tha they are very hard to find.
But yes in the long run searching for a two ohm speaker is not needed, four ohm speakers will work just fine.
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I have a 2d generation Copper S and I ordered it in April '09 and picked it up from the dealership in May '09. I have the Nav System, Bluetooth, CD/radio. Anyway, I hit a bump the other day and when my music (Ipod) was playing the music or audio disappeared. Everything in the car is fine, but there's no chimes or any audio system working. My bluetooth isn't responding either and my CD isn't recognizing and I have a CD in it. I tried to eject the CD and it won't eject. When the door is open, there's no beeping sound and when my gas light lit up, there was no warning sound. Please help, does anyone has the same problem from previous? My appointment is not until next week, but I need to reach out and see if someone knows the problem. Could it be the speakers, AMP, radio? Your help is greatly appreciated.
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I have a 2d generation Copper S and I ordered it in April '09 and picked it up from the dealership in May '09. I have the Nav System, Bluetooth, CD/radio. Anyway, I hit a bump the other day and when my music (Ipod) was playing the music or audio disappeared. Everything in the car is fine, but there's no chimes or any audio system working. My bluetooth isn't responding either and my CD isn't recognizing and I have a CD in it. I tried to eject the CD and it won't eject. When the door is open, there's no beeping sound and when my gas light lit up, there was no warning sound. Please help, does anyone has the same problem from previous? My appointment is not until next week, but I need to reach out and see if someone knows the problem. Could it be the speakers, AMP, radio? Your help is greatly appreciated.
This is very similar to what happened to me...check my thread "the music died"...
I didn't try to eject a cd..but all the other symptoms i had. Plus if you go to the aux volume button you cannot raise or lower the bar there either?
My solution was to pull some fuses in the kick panel...i was looking to see if i blew a fuse. I didn't blow any but one of them seemed to reset everything and the music came back. I can't say for sure which one it was.
I will be curious as to what your dealer tells you....
The Polk MM series speakers are 2.9 ohms and a close match to the amps and an alternative to the Infinity and JBL speakers. See MM6501 etc.
crutchfield sells them and has a what fits my car program although their prices are kind of high, they include wiring adaptors and instructions.
Ironic, I bought those speakers to install in my 2005 G35 coupe which I sold in May before getting around to installing them. It too had the 2 ohm amp with the Bose system. They had good reviews on the G35driver site. I just sold them on eBay and the 6 1/2 inch coaxials and the 6x9s. Recently began shopping for a Clubman S fully loaded. Trying to get a deal on a 2009, and I would want to replace the front speakers, even on the HIFI system. It appears almost worth it to wait, pay a little more and get the 2010 for the Harman Kardon speakers upgrade and avoid the instant depreciation of the 09 since the dealer only wants to discount $800. I used to enjoy tearing cars apart and upgrading the sound system, suspension etc. In my old age, I appear to have less enthusiasim for it. Still have a big roll of auto sound proofing material sitting around...
Does anybody have the mounting depth that is available for the R56 speakers?
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Originally Posted by raz636
A Mini rep sent me some official figures for the audio systems in the R56. Here's the info:
Standard System:
4 channels
6 loudspeakers
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
Bandwidth: 50 Hz to 14,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 98 dB
Amplifier power: depends on radio,
4 x 15 W (4 Ohm)
HiFi System:
8 channels
10 loudspeakers
• 2 treble loudspeakers in front, 26 mm [~1 inch]
• 2 mid-range loudspeakers in front, 100 mm [~4 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in front, 150 mm [~6 inch]
• 2 bass loudspeakers in rear, 6 x 9"
• 2 treble loudspeakers in rear, 26 mm [~1 inch]
Bandwidth: 40 Hz to 20,000 Hz
Max. acoustic pressure 104 dB
Amplifier power:
•2 x 40 W (2 Ohm) Bass
•6 x 25 W (2 Ohm)
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Does anybody have the mounting depth that is available for the R56 speakers?
I think if you stay within 3" in depth, you will be OK.Will be able to tell you more next week as I will be replacing my front speakers (already did the rears with Focals, and they sound GREAT just running off the stock system (non-HI-FI). Am in the process of installing a Kenwood Excellon XR-4S to run both sets.
BIG QUESTION-is there a space under the drivers side seat like the one on the passenger side with the infamous styrofoam chunk? If so, is it the same size?
BIG QUESTION-is there a space under the drivers side seat like the one on the passenger side with the infamous styrofoam chunk? If so, is it the same size?
I think it depends on year and options. My 2007 MCS with lots of options does not have room for much of anything under the driver's seat.
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I bought my '09 MC convertible off the lot. It has the standard radio.
I'm a musician and have a pretty keen ear. I generally listen to jazz and some classical in the car, along with a little pop. I am a realist -- Saturday Afternoon at the Met and car stereos are not compatible unless you have a very expensive system, which I will not want in this car. It would be nice for James Taylor to sound decent, though. Currently, I can't even bear to listen to the golden oldies station because the sound is so poor.
I've never done any after market audio. My last car had a factory installed top-of-the-line Bose system that was magnificent. I know I'm not going to recreate that.
So my question is, how do I go about upgrading in a way that will not rip the car apart or cost me more than $1,000? (The less the better.) I will not do any of the work myself.
Should I start with a woofer in the boot, then decide what to do next? Will I definitely need an amp, and thus should do that first too? Do I try to put the amp under a seat, or do I just put everything in the boot? (The convertible boots are tiny.) Someone told me the boot may already be wired for the stereo system. Is there a way to tell?
I see a couple nooks in the car, which seem to be for additional speakers. Maybe I should try to use those spaces for speakers?
And, dumb question, but how do I choose the system? The kids at the store aren't probably huge Yo-yo Ma fans.
how is the base radio only 6 speakers? two in back, 4 on doors 2 tweetwers on dash....8 ?
There are no speakers on the dash. The base system has 6 speakers. The Hi-Fi system has tweeters in the A pillar trim, but it also adds two more speakers in the rear for a total of 10.
I have two tweeters on my pillars above my dash, two speakers in my doors high by my pull handles and two lower on the front doors by the bottom..and two bigger speakers on the rear sides...........in the back seat area........approx 6x9's there....... that IS 8. counting the tweeters as two, the upper door in front as two, the lower door in front as two and the rears as two. two plus two plus two plus two. is six? you sound like my boss...IT's 8!!
I have two tweeters on my pillars above my dash, two speakers in my doors high by my pull handles and two lower on the front doors by the bottom..and two bigger speakers on the rear sides...........in the back seat area........approx 6x9's there....... that IS 8. counting the tweeters as two, the upper door in front as two, the lower door in front as two and the rears as two. two plus two plus two plus two. is six? you sound like my boss...IT's 8!!
You have the tweeters on the A pillars? Then you you don't have the base sound system, you have the Hi-Fi system. Now I'm really going to sound like your boss and tell you that you have 10 speakers! There are four in the rear, two on each side.
You have the tweeters on the A pillars? Then you you don't have the base sound system, you have the Hi-Fi system. Now I'm really going to sound like your boss and tell you that you have 10 speakers! There are four in the rear, two on each side.
Rears I believe are two-ways on the hi-fi...making a technical count of "10" speakers...misleading I know.
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Does anyone know if the boost CD system has unused connections to add "A" pillar tweets?
If it does, it's not at the X9331 connector...it would be somewhere else, but my suspicion is no. When the car was built with a Boost spec, it got a different wiring harness than that of a Hi-Fi/HK spec build. The Hi-Fi/HK spec has a different wiring harness coming off the X9331 which routes through the amp, and that harness is where the tweeter hookup is.
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Here's a schpiel on the H/K system in the '10 model...
A Unique Car Deserves a Unique Sound System
MINI and Harman Kardon® both embody excellent performance, top quality, individuality and lifestyle in combination with distinctive design. Together, these two iconic brands stand for pioneering technology and passionate engineering. As partners, MINI and Harman Kardon jointly developed tailor-made sound systems that enrich the dynamic MINI driving experience with a fascinating listening experience. The uncompromising sound quality is delivered by the powerful digital Harman Kardon DSP amplifiers in Class D technology, driving ten speakers that are optimally positioned in the car and specifically adjusted for the respective MINI model. These high-performance transducers feature specially developed membrane materials. The tweeters, with metal matrix diaphragms, employ a complex sandwich structure with an aluminum core and a ceramic surface. Midrange speakers in the door panels feature Alumaprene® diaphragms that are characterized by excellent damping characteristics for a finely balanced frequency response. The new diaphragm materials ensure a careful balance between stiffness and weight.
In addition, the MINI models also use a high-performance 480-watt Class D amplifier, a power pack whose superior sound pressure level (SPL) fulfills the desire for fun and produces a richly detailed sound. Compared to the previous model, the module, which weighs only 1.3 kg, allows twice the performance; low bass tones are passed on to the speakers powerfully and precisely. Because of its superior efficiency, the amplifier radiates very little heat, rendering additional cooling unnecessary. Thus, the amplifier features very compact dimensions of just 19.2 x 11.6 x 5.2 centimeters, enabling space saving installations.
Harman Kardon is a world leader in the development and production of high-quality audio systems, and has worked with the engineers at MINI to design the perfect solution for these unique cars. It was clear from the very beginning that this was not a matter of standard solutions, as each model has its own unique set of requirements. For example, the MINI Convertible needs a system that can offer the same outstanding sound experience whether the top is up or down. With the MINI Clubman, on the other hand, the acoustic experts had to take the larger interior space into account when tuning the sound. Furthermore, the additional door on the passenger side for rear seat passengers required the development of a speaker that is specially optimized for small volumes.
The high standards of both brands were the top priority during development: The system meets the most demanding requirements of an excellent, uncompromising sound experience. Even at an early stage in the design phase, this required close cooperation between the engineers from both brands. As all interior components have a dramatic impact on acoustics, Harman Kardon engineers work on sound tuning in the different phases of vehicle development. To ensure a faithful, three-dimensional listening experience, the number, size, and position of the speakers have to be defined, and the individual components optimally tuned.
Following the complex sound tuning with Auravox, Harman’s proprietary fully automatic tuning and filtering process, new sound systems need to undergo the ultimate test: the human ear. The top acoustic experts from Harman Kardon employ direct listening tests to ensure that the results meet the brand’s high standards. Fine nuances are, of course, allowed and even desired, as the sound should exactly reflect the character of the respective MINI model and corresponding target group.
If one would opt to do the HK retrofit without changing the amp, would you get enough sound of teh system is looking at the spces of the hifi rears this seems to be a bit low on volume
What is the antenna layout? Is there one or two FM antennas etc.
I searched and find posts saying there are 2 FM antennas with 1 of those in the window. I'd love to take the upper stinger off without losing my FM entirely.
I got a 2010 cooper S hatch with the standard 6 speaker stereo. I replaced all 4 speakers in the doors with Infinity Referance speakers; 6 1/2 and 3 1/2 inch. Does anybody know the positive and negitive coloring on the wire? With the way is it dose'nt sound much better. I also want to replace the rears.
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Dark Silver 2010 "S"
