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Hi, just got my D70 and wanted to experiment some shots on Neo. Some post edit with PS9. Hope you like and provide some comments and suggestions. Thanks
I like the color and lighting especially in #1. One thing you may want to avoid in the future is that "antenna" look caused by the light pole. Car looks great though. Love those wheels.
Hi, just got my D70 and wanted to experiment some shots on Neo. Some post edit with PS9. Hope you like and provide some comments and suggestions.
Neo looks sharp!
+1 on all of the other posters comments. If the parking garage is close to you, experiment with different locations on the top deck and try to minimize the distractions. Try getting down low and see if that helps or going much higher by standing on a light post concrete base. Play with it and have some fun.
Also get a circular polarizer filter for your lens. You'll find it is a big help in eliminating the distractions in the car's paint (look at the light poles on the front quarter panels and door on Neo), plus it can help making the sky more dramatic.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!
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A very nice first try! Another ditto on watching your backgrounds. Getting farther back and shooting longer (I assume you have a zoom of some sort though I can't see your EXIF data) will help you isolate a smaller slice of background, like you've done in the third shot. Often moving the car around is better than walking around it and watch the details--I'd close the sunroof, roll up the windows, and remove that green object from the dash.
Alright, I ran into a problem. When I try to save my image on PS9 as jpeg or other compressed format I lost ton of colors and depth. I shot in RAW format. Any advice? Thanks
Alright, I ran into a problem. When I try to save my image on PS9 as jpeg or other compressed format I lost ton of colors and depth. I shot in RAW format. Any advice? Thanks
PS9? Photosuite? Can it handle Nikon raw files?
RAW files are huge because they are exactly what the sensor sees. Compressed files are lossy ... you lose data. RAW stores at least 12 bits of data, pretty sure. JPG maybe 8 bits? There has to be data lost.
Alright, I ran into a problem. When I try to save my image on PS9 as jpeg or other compressed format I lost ton of colors and depth. I shot in RAW format. Any advice? Thanks
Can you post the "after" .JPG? When you say you lost a "ton" of colours, do you mean that the final picture was *really* blotchy, like it only had 256 colours?
I notice a tiny difference between my RAW files and the final .JPGs, but it's certainly not anything horrendous.
Thanks for replies. I don't know what happened, but I converted RAW to jpg then edit with Photoshop 9 and did not have much color lost. Very odd, I guess I have to research more on this matter. Anyways... here is some shots that I took at an old factory. Once again, thanks for your suggestions.
Love the foggy day lake photo. I personally would have turned the front wheels in the opposite direction, but that's my tastes (show off the nice wheels )
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Alright, I ran into a problem. When I try to save my image on PS9 as jpeg or other compressed format I lost ton of colors and depth. I shot in RAW format. Any advice? Thanks
I think this is the same complaint I have with PS & jpeg files viewed in web browsers and it's a very different issue than what Dr. Phil describes. I'd love to hear others with more PS experience speak up here and describe what they do.
First off, my monitor is color calibrated and I've had printed a ton of photos that look exactly the same as on my monitor. However, if I run "save for the web" in PS, there is a noticeable color shift between the original and the target preview (2 up view). Skin tones are typically unaffected, but saturated reds, greens and blues all get shifted slightly, plus some of the gamma is lost with the shadows loosing dark details.
I shoot in RAW and use ACR to convert to sRGB color space when working on web output photos.
What I've found in my research is that PS is a color managed application, whereas all web browsers (except safari) ignore any color profile information inside an image. So your web browsers are all running in a non-color managed environment, hence the color shifts. PS at least acknowledges this when you run "save for web" and it shows the target preview in a non-color managed view which shows exactly what it will look like in a web browser.
I've got into the habit if I'm working on an image for web output to use "View -> Proof Setup -> Monitor RGB". You need to do this only once, then you can press ctrl + Y to switch on new images. Open an image with saturated reds, greens, or blues, then press ctrl + Y to see the color shift and levels change. You'll know you're in the monitor preview mode by the image window title that has "RGB/8/Monitor" in it.
I personally spend too much time fixing this color shift as I have yet to find a silver bullet to fix it. The darkening of the image is a simple levels adjustment fix however, typically adjust mid tone gamma to 1.1 or 1.15 from 1.0. Sometimes I can fix the color shift quickly with a Hue/Sat layer and adjust the Hue by +/- 5. Oftentimes though I have to use a layer mask and create multiple Hue/Sat adj layers to fix the colors in various parts of an image. I've also found using "photo filter" adj layers, specifically sepia to help on some shifts, but more often than not it warms up the image too much. Practice your masking skills.
Other suggestions for saving images when the target viewer is not color managed???
Also, if anyone doesn't see all the blocks in the image below, please adjust the brightness and contrast on your monitor. You're missing out on the photos we all post here.
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...Also, if anyone doesn't see all the blocks in the image below, please adjust the brightness and contrast on your monitor. You're missing out on the photos we all post here.
Thanks for posting this. And being able to discriminate each individual block is also gratifying. I'll reiterate, if you can't see each block distinctly, then adjust your monitor. Of course, realise this tells you nothing about color balance.
Alright, I ran into a problem. When I try to save my image on PS9 as jpeg or other compressed format I lost ton of colors and depth. I shot in RAW format. Any advice? Thanks
Is your camera set for a color space of AdobeRGB when shooting RAW? Or perhaps your RAW converter is setting it to AdobeRGB. While that is a good colorspace for printing (larger than sRGB) you don't want to use it for the Web. Before you save as JPEG for the Web, convert the color to sRGB.
I set up an action in Photoshop that converts the color profile to sRGB, then invokes Save for Web.
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I know nothing about RAW but your colors look great. I'm with everyone on th elight pole in the back of the shots...the 2nd set are great! I like that location a lot (the pics might even benefit from a little vinyetting)
+1 on most of what stoo said, loe the location and reading that bit about vinyetting had wheels turning instantly Last one's my fave ,2nd to last I'd love if the MINI was on there other side so right now I just really like it
THe swap from RAW to Jepeg does little on the basic look when you straight up down grade it, where it makes a huge differance is in the finer post processing, because it gives you much more information to work with, andyou can get a lot more detail out of things like the dark wheels and the front of the Cooper's air dam disappearing.
Hmmm Canon DSLRs come with the software to shoot Raw out of the box
'Ancient" 10d FTW!!!
BTW Just saw the Milwaukee location, where exactly is that 2nd spot? I really think we need to get all the Chicago/So. WI PHotogs together for a day of shooting!
Stoo: I tried to add some vinyetting in the lot shot, but after the the conversion to jpeg I lost most of it :(
valcom111t: Thanks, I am really enjoying it. I am still in the learning process and experimenting. Hope I have more time to play in the summer.
Motor On: There are a few old factories near my neighborhood on S 62th in West Allis. Also, getting photologs together for one day shoot sounds great. Please let me know!!!
West Allis, Wisconsin? I've been there lots of times to shoot at the Milwaukee Mile.
I like that second set, too. Cool location.
When you say you lost colors, do you mean saturation? I'm wondering if you shot in Adobe RGB colorspace and didn't convert to sRGB for the web. The shots you posted look fine, though.
eurazn: I was looking at all your photos, and noticed they appear very high contrast on my computers. The blacks are completely lacking in detail. So I downloaded a photo and "took a deeper look" through the lens of the histogram. Here's what I found:
The histogram tells the story! It doesn't matter what monitor you're using, whether it's calibrated or not, the histogram always remains the same. It's the graphical tale of your image, and this one says to me: too much contrast, and no details in the shadows.
You get a nice "high key" image, but I keep wanting to adjust my monitor...which would be silly 'coz there's nothing wrong with its calibration.
Anyway, just thought I'd share.
Thanks Dr. Phil, I have have a Mac and I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I can see the difference of the same image on my Mac and any PC.
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eurazn: I was looking at all your photos, and noticed they appear very high contrast on my computers. The blacks are completely lacking in detail. So I downloaded a photo and "took a deeper look" through the lens of the histogram. Here's what I found:
The histogram tells the story! It doesn't matter what monitor you're using, whether it's calibrated or not, the histogram always remains the same. It's the graphical tale of your image, and this one says to me: too much contrast, and no details in the shadows.
You get a nice "high key" image, but I keep wanting to adjust my monitor...which would be silly 'coz there's nothing wrong with its calibration.
Anyway, just thought I'd share.
Except ... for tha funny looking pole sticking out of the top of the car
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Last one's my fave ,2nd to last I'd love if the MINI was on there other side so right now I just really like it
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