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I've never used the K10D, but I really like the fact that the image stabilization/vibration reduction is built into the camera body itself, instead of being part of the lens, like with my Nikon.
The VR lenses aren't cheap, and it seems like a waste to have to buy the same functionality over and over again with each new lens.
We have a K10D at work, with a "normal zoom" and the 200mm zoom. It's a nice piece of equipment -- quite a bargain. I am especially impressed with the low noise level at high ISO. I also like very much the setup of the aperture/shutter speed controls, right up there on the front and back of the grip. A pleasant surprise was the auto-correcting for vertical shots. Our older Pentax didn't do that, so viewing verticals was always more awkward and slower.
Last week I had a few shots where the autofocus was hitting a little behind my subject, but it may have been caused by me not watching the autofocus zone. I did a few test shots afterward, switching between manual and auto, and didn't see the problem.
IMO the VR being built into the lens isn't such a bad thing. I'm thinking that Nikon's VR being designed specifically for each lens it's used in is better than Pentax's one size fits all VR approach. That being said I think the VR does make the K10D very attractive.
For the cost of that camera I think it's a good deal, plus there is a $100 rebate available if you buy the kit $649 after rebate.
If you are starting out & have no other Nikon or Canon lenses to use then the Pentax could be the way to go. If you plan to really get into photography, Nikon or Canon are the way to go.
IMO the VR being built into the lens isn't such a bad thing. I'm thinking that Nikon's VR being designed specifically for each lens it's used in is better than Pentax's one size fits all VR approach.
I admit I've never used a camera with in-body VR, but I don't see why VR needs to be "tuned" for a particular lens at all. If the stabilization system in the Pentax body keeps the sensor from moving/shaking, that should be all that's needed, regardless of the lens, right?
I admit I've never used a camera with in-body VR, but I don't see why VR needs to be "tuned" for a particular lens at all. If the stabilization system in the Pentax body keeps the sensor from moving/shaking, that should be all that's needed, regardless of the lens, right?
I'm not saying it needs to be tuned to a particular lens. IMO it seems to me that if it was, it would be more affective. That's all.
I just picked up a K10D after owning an *ist Ds for a few years. I'm fairly happy with the camera and while the autofocus is much improved, its still nothing like canon/nikon, nor is the flash system. That said, the cost of the closest canon or nikon is significantly higher. The in body IS is a great feature as is the totally weathersealed body.
FWIW, the camera knows what length lens is on the body and adjusts based on that. When you use older, manual lenses that dont communicate with the body, a screen pops up that prompts you to enter the focal length of the lens.
OK, Finally got my camera and I LOVE IT! I am just getting the hang of how this baby works.
macncheese: The issue with the old lenses is to set your camera to accept the manual lens.
Go to MENU, Custom Setting, page 6, Using aperture ring, select 2, PERMITTED and all will be a peace with any Pentax lens you got. I use my old 52mm from my Pentax K1000 and its wonderful! Just remember to set the body on M!
One thing I have learned from other photographers is to shoot RAW and choose your speed according to your lighting needs. Works great!
Oh, also, shake reduction focal length while in using a manual lens has to be pre-set when you first turn on the body.
I have been thru 3 Canon's with a multitude of lenses and still use my trusty K1000 but this Pentax K10D is by far the best body I've had me hands on in a long time. Its a keeper
Below is my daughter at her drawing table. I am amazed with the skin tone quality and low light shooting.
There's nothing I can't do with this bad boy!
Nice picture. I'm not having any issues using old lenses other besides the stop down metering with manual lenses doesnt work that well when using apertures other than wide open. My camera seems to overexpose by a stop or two. I guess I cant complain because I'm using a 135mm F2.8 that I paid $35 for. Happy New Year to you as well!
Same thing here. I'm shooting wide open when using my manual lens also. It works well for portraits, low lighting situations and close ups but not so good for group shots. Glad I have a wide angle for that. I did try changing the speed to compensate and it helped.
I am still thrilled I can use any Pentax lens and not having to get all new digital lenses.
I was playing around with the multiple exposure feature today and I made this xray vision view of my watch. Its one exposure with the box opened and 7 with the box closed with the exposure averaged over all shots. A hood up/down shot on the mini would be cool.
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Last edited by macncheese; 01-02-2008 at 09:05 PM.
