2006 R53 JCW Car Questions
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2006 R53 JCW Car Questions
Good Morning Everyone,
I'm looking around for a low mileage factory JCW car, specifically one with the limited slip, etc.
I found this car.
http://www.rjcwheels.com/2006_MINI_C..._266322222.veh
The dealer confirmed it has numbered plate "S6967" in the engine bay, plus a supercharger badged as "John Cooper Works." You can see it has badging and exhaust in the pictures.
However, when you run the VIN, it lacks any mention of the 2TA or 3AL option packages. The VIN is WMWRE33596TN25368
So, I guess my question is...what exactly am I looking at with 25,000 miles on it? A factory "stage 1" car? Definitely doesn't look like the option packages I'm after, but I haven't found any 2006 R53s with anything less than the 3AL package. I've only seen full JCW cars or regular R53s, which leads me to want to know more about it.
Thanks in advance for the input.
I'm looking around for a low mileage factory JCW car, specifically one with the limited slip, etc.
I found this car.
http://www.rjcwheels.com/2006_MINI_C..._266322222.veh
The dealer confirmed it has numbered plate "S6967" in the engine bay, plus a supercharger badged as "John Cooper Works." You can see it has badging and exhaust in the pictures.
However, when you run the VIN, it lacks any mention of the 2TA or 3AL option packages. The VIN is WMWRE33596TN25368
So, I guess my question is...what exactly am I looking at with 25,000 miles on it? A factory "stage 1" car? Definitely doesn't look like the option packages I'm after, but I haven't found any 2006 R53s with anything less than the 3AL package. I've only seen full JCW cars or regular R53s, which leads me to want to know more about it.
Thanks in advance for the input.
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From my reading I thought all 2006 JCW cars were factory after MINI bought them out. I guess I might have interpreted what I read incorrectly, and that you could have it both ways in 2006.
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As the VIN does not have the JCW code and as the car is not equipped with a LSD, all the JCW stuff is aftermarket, and/or, dealer installed. The supercharger if a JCW would have a silver plastic trim cover with the JCW logo on the drive side of the trim. The JCW badge with serial number is mounted on the valve cover at the passenger side rear. Without the serial number badge on the valve cover, I would wonder if the JCW head was installed. The JCW SC is also different and without aforementioned valve cover badge, I would also question whether the SC is correct.
Somebody made this to look like a JCW, the question is how many of the JCW adds ( a total close to $6,000) were really installed.
Somebody made this to look like a JCW, the question is how many of the JCW adds ( a total close to $6,000) were really installed.
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I think you meant that the intercooler cover is silver.
OP - have you asked for a photo from under the hood? Externally, the only things visible are the JCW badges and the JCW exhaust
OP - have you asked for a photo from under the hood? Externally, the only things visible are the JCW badges and the JCW exhaust
As the VIN does not have the JCW code and as the car is not equipped with a LSD, all the JCW stuff is aftermarket, and/or, dealer installed. The supercharger if a JCW would have a silver plastic trim cover with the JCW logo on the drive side of the trim. The JCW badge with serial number is mounted on the valve cover at the passenger side rear. Without the serial number badge on the valve cover, I would wonder if the JCW head was installed. The JCW SC is also different and without aforementioned valve cover badge, I would also question whether the SC is correct.
Somebody made this to look like a JCW, the question is how many of the JCW adds ( a total close to $6,000) were really installed.
Somebody made this to look like a JCW, the question is how many of the JCW adds ( a total close to $6,000) were really installed.
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The JCW exhaust system has two typical looking oval mufflers (first link) whereas the standard S muffler has two odd tool box looking mufflers (second link). If you want a JCW, you want the limited slip. Night and day difference.
The kit number S6967 appears to be in sequence for that year. I think a BMW or Mini dealer can take the number and see what dealer did the work and what was installed.
Blue injectors and the air box with the JCW sticker were also part of the kit.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...bA0UR3l198D0Gg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...WrEQ9fZVsWX1wQ
The kit number S6967 appears to be in sequence for that year. I think a BMW or Mini dealer can take the number and see what dealer did the work and what was installed.
Blue injectors and the air box with the JCW sticker were also part of the kit.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...bA0UR3l198D0Gg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...WrEQ9fZVsWX1wQ
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This is an R53 Cooper S, not a factory JCW. It appears to have the dealer installed JCW tuning kit, but a little more confirmation is needed as others have stated. It is possibly the 210hp version.
No LSD, no JCW brake kit, as would have been found on a factory 2006 JCW.
It appears to have cold/sport/premium packages, plus the English leather option. I see auto air, and garage door opener, so it also probably has one of the convenience packages.
Missing a few desirable options (icing on the cake really) including rear fog light, H/K stereo, and anthracite headliner.
That said, this is still a very nice low miles R53 with lots of really good options.
No LSD, no JCW brake kit, as would have been found on a factory 2006 JCW.
It appears to have cold/sport/premium packages, plus the English leather option. I see auto air, and garage door opener, so it also probably has one of the convenience packages.
Missing a few desirable options (icing on the cake really) including rear fog light, H/K stereo, and anthracite headliner.
That said, this is still a very nice low miles R53 with lots of really good options.
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Just my two cents but without the LSD the car is not worth the money for the extra HP of the JCW engine kit. I would like to hear comments from non LSD drivers that have put money into braces to keep the tires on the ground.
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
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My view on LSD versus non-LSD: totally depends on what you use the car for and how you drive it
Just my two cents but without the LSD the car is not worth the money for the extra HP of the JCW engine kit. I would like to hear comments from non LSD drivers that have put money into braces to keep the tires on the ground.
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
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With such low mileage and questionable provenance, I would want to see if the title is clean. I have over the years seen many low mileage cars purchased as "builders" from insurance pools. They were built up with added goodies to make the previously salvaged title look indescreet. Check this car's title closely.
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Thanks everyone, you have confirmed my suspicions! Shame because it's a nice car but I'm after a factory JCW car with a LSD, brakes, etc.
The dealer gave me the JCW serial number and confirmed it had a silver SC cover, he did not send me a picture because I told him I was not interested in the car. It is definitely a well fitted dealer installed car.
The dealer gave me the JCW serial number and confirmed it had a silver SC cover, he did not send me a picture because I told him I was not interested in the car. It is definitely a well fitted dealer installed car.
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Just my two cents but without the LSD the car is not worth the money for the extra HP of the JCW engine kit. I would like to hear comments from non LSD drivers that have put money into braces to keep the tires on the ground.
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
Having similar cars, one with LSD and one without, would not buy a Mini that did not have .
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That was dealer installed and a rare MC40. I would say allot of MC40 got the dealership JCW packages as back in the day they would load them up and set in the showroom as an all option car. They marked up the MC40's when they first came out and most sat at the dealer. I remember seeing these new back in 2004 when I bought my MINI. Awesome, save that plate and dont loose it from that MINI. Most people lost the center plates. Also, those wheels are the rare JCW 18" wheels. R95
https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/Jcw_18/
Good info here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nt-03-jcw.html
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