JCW Sudden pinging and loss of power?
#27
hahaha Mini owners: when did common sense ever come into the equation?
car sounds like a cluster ******. Just get rid of it. Never had those kind of squirrelly issues with my JCW. Sounds like you bought a used JCW without a good background check of it's prior issues.
Yeah modding on top of a problem engine is not smart. But hey. You got a new motor. I'd kiss their *** for that. It's the Mini culture. hahaha Poor man's sports car.
car sounds like a cluster ******. Just get rid of it. Never had those kind of squirrelly issues with my JCW. Sounds like you bought a used JCW without a good background check of it's prior issues.
Yeah modding on top of a problem engine is not smart. But hey. You got a new motor. I'd kiss their *** for that. It's the Mini culture. hahaha Poor man's sports car.
#28
So, going to pick up the unaltered car and then run it over to a different dealer on Saturday. Advisor at dealership 2 sounded far more knowledgeable and seemed to actually care about getting the issue fixed.
Dealer 1 said that a detailed test was run, and the car basically told them it had bad gas, as opposed to needing a carbon cleaning.
Such nonsense.
Edit: They will give me a printout of the codes, though.
Dealer 1 said that a detailed test was run, and the car basically told them it had bad gas, as opposed to needing a carbon cleaning.
Such nonsense.
Edit: They will give me a printout of the codes, though.
2) "Bad gas" theory, while it can happen seems more often than not to be the mantra of inexperienced service advisors....IMO better to just say " I don't know " than to make stupid statements like that.
3) Carbon build up/timing chain issue are possibilities. Hope they realize the N18's were not in JCW's until late 2012 ? If purchased used, they
should check with BMW and see what engine work has been performed in the past....bad Timing chain job ( cam bolts backing out ) could cause chain to skip when under load.
4) Have them take off the Intake tube and manually check Turbo for proper movement.
GL!
#29
hahaha Mini owners: when did common sense ever come into the equation?
car sounds like a cluster ******. Just get rid of it. Never had those kind of squirrelly issues with my JCW. Sounds like you bought a used JCW without a good background check of it's prior issues.
Yeah modding on top of a problem engine is not smart. But hey. You got a new motor. I'd kiss their *** for that. It's the Mini culture. hahaha Poor man's sports car.
car sounds like a cluster ******. Just get rid of it. Never had those kind of squirrelly issues with my JCW. Sounds like you bought a used JCW without a good background check of it's prior issues.
Yeah modding on top of a problem engine is not smart. But hey. You got a new motor. I'd kiss their *** for that. It's the Mini culture. hahaha Poor man's sports car.
Super helpful.....................jackass.
#36
Brace yourselves.
The coil isnt the issue.
We've traced the problem to a rattling turbo heatshield.
Wait, I was wrong, fair is fair. They think the coil has fixed the issue (yes, I know, still odd that they chucked the engine and THEN figured this out. The rattling heatshield is just an ancillary item.
Lets see what transpires.
Yeah, THATS the problem.
The coil isnt the issue.
We've traced the problem to a rattling turbo heatshield.
Wait, I was wrong, fair is fair. They think the coil has fixed the issue (yes, I know, still odd that they chucked the engine and THEN figured this out. The rattling heatshield is just an ancillary item.
Lets see what transpires.
Yeah, THATS the problem.
Last edited by pakisho; 12-02-2016 at 04:13 PM.
#37
So I got the car back. They replaced a coil and installed new software, per the dealer.
The car seems to be running much smoother. TOO smooth, in fact. The surge as the turbo spooled has now turned into a very linear ramp up in power, and I dont like it!
Has anyone else experienced this after a software update?
The car seems to be running much smoother. TOO smooth, in fact. The surge as the turbo spooled has now turned into a very linear ramp up in power, and I dont like it!
Has anyone else experienced this after a software update?
#39
Dyno will give you the power sheet and then measure it against some stock dyno numbers on here.
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#41
I believe you may be due for some serious Japanese iron that would probably serve you better. I don't see another Mini in my future but in the meantime, I am still happy.
#42
So I got the car back. They replaced a coil and installed new software, per the dealer.
The car seems to be running much smoother. TOO smooth, in fact. The surge as the turbo spooled has now turned into a very linear ramp up in power, and I dont like it!
Has anyone else experienced this after a software update?
The car seems to be running much smoother. TOO smooth, in fact. The surge as the turbo spooled has now turned into a very linear ramp up in power, and I dont like it!
Has anyone else experienced this after a software update?
IMO the replacement JCW engines must be stock S engines with new part numbers. If someone were to take the time to ever dismantle one I bet they would find some significant differences internally from the original one ( Strictly Factory JCW speaking here. ) Friend of mine had a Factory 2010 JCW Clubman S, engine was replaced at just 18K miles. He said the same exact thing you have here....he was so upset they double checked the part number for the engine ordered to be sure it was the correct one ( JCW )...he ended up trading it in for something else...
#44
My 2007 MCS was set up with a JCW turbo, Riss racing catless downpipe, k&n typhoon and a Cobb Accessport. I was dyno checked at 240 hp and it ran great. But under high load roll under 3000 rpm I would supperknock. It took out my number three piston. I completely rebuilt the engine with Carrillo CP forged pistons and still had same situation. I did the following.
First turned off the tune back to stock. Still knocking but less. Removed Riss Racing downpipe next and no more super knocking. Replaced K&N typhoon with JCW airbox. Now it runs smoother and operating temps are reduced. Super knocking is eliminated. Bottom end and mid range torque is increased. Sold Cobb tuner, selling Riss Racing pipe and Typhoon Intake.
First turned off the tune back to stock. Still knocking but less. Removed Riss Racing downpipe next and no more super knocking. Replaced K&N typhoon with JCW airbox. Now it runs smoother and operating temps are reduced. Super knocking is eliminated. Bottom end and mid range torque is increased. Sold Cobb tuner, selling Riss Racing pipe and Typhoon Intake.
#46
With regards to super knock.............are the aftermarket race shops like Way,Lohen,Cravenspeed,Sneed4Speed etc finding a way to prevent super knock when they are rebuilding these engines from the bare block and up. Is this a tolerance and measurement problem or does it always come down to software. If we all are getting Superknock on a street driven car - how are enthusiasts club racing, Auto x or tracking their cars without Superknocking all of the time??
Is there any actual solution to Superknocking other than driving the car like a granny and missing out on all the fun?
Is there any actual solution to Superknocking other than driving the car like a granny and missing out on all the fun?
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