JCW Clutch differences and Clutch Stop Options
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Clutch differences and Clutch Stop Options
I own a 2012 MINI JCW. My wife has a 2013 MINI JCW. They have a VERY different clutch feeling.
I'd describe it like this:
2012: Resistance (push back) all the way through the pedal travel to the floor (100% of the throw).
2013: Resistance (push back) 75% of the pedal throw (towards the floor). After that, the pedal becomes "lighter", like it's assisted, for the last 25% of the pedal travel to the floor.
We both hate how her clutch feels/drives. She wishes she could get hers to feel more like mine. It's very hard to get a good feel on her clutch because right when the clutch is about to engage, the clutch become heavy (when you are lifting up your foot to engage the clutch, the assistance seems to come off and the pedal becomes "heavy" again) right at the wrong time in the pedal travel.
We've taken it to the dealer to see if there was a problem but they assured us this is how the 2013's drive. They even brought us a 2013 roadster so we could feel its clutch, and it matched my wife's 2013 clutch feel (lighter/assisted the last 25% of the throw).
I thought a clutch stop might help as the clutch seems to be fully disengaged before the last 25% of the throw. I ordered the $10 BMS clutch stop, but this does not even come close to stopping the pedal throw (and when I tried to remove it, I broke it, plastic POS).
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions for a clutch stop that will work on my wife's 2013?
Does anyone have experience driving both years? Can you confirm that we are not crazy and that the clutches are different?
TIA!
I'd describe it like this:
2012: Resistance (push back) all the way through the pedal travel to the floor (100% of the throw).
2013: Resistance (push back) 75% of the pedal throw (towards the floor). After that, the pedal becomes "lighter", like it's assisted, for the last 25% of the pedal travel to the floor.
We both hate how her clutch feels/drives. She wishes she could get hers to feel more like mine. It's very hard to get a good feel on her clutch because right when the clutch is about to engage, the clutch become heavy (when you are lifting up your foot to engage the clutch, the assistance seems to come off and the pedal becomes "heavy" again) right at the wrong time in the pedal travel.
We've taken it to the dealer to see if there was a problem but they assured us this is how the 2013's drive. They even brought us a 2013 roadster so we could feel its clutch, and it matched my wife's 2013 clutch feel (lighter/assisted the last 25% of the throw).
I thought a clutch stop might help as the clutch seems to be fully disengaged before the last 25% of the throw. I ordered the $10 BMS clutch stop, but this does not even come close to stopping the pedal throw (and when I tried to remove it, I broke it, plastic POS).
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions for a clutch stop that will work on my wife's 2013?
Does anyone have experience driving both years? Can you confirm that we are not crazy and that the clutches are different?
TIA!
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I own a 2012 MINI JCW. My wife has a 2013 MINI JCW. They have a VERY different clutch feeling.
I'd describe it like this:
2012: Resistance (push back) all the way through the pedal travel to the floor (100% of the throw).
2013: Resistance (push back) 75% of the pedal throw (towards the floor). After that, the pedal becomes "lighter", like it's assisted, for the last 25% of the pedal travel to the floor.
We both hate how her clutch feels/drives. She wishes she could get hers to feel more like mine. It's very hard to get a good feel on her clutch because right when the clutch is about to engage, the clutch become heavy (when you are lifting up your foot to engage the clutch, the assistance seems to come off and the pedal becomes "heavy" again) right at the wrong time in the pedal travel.
We've taken it to the dealer to see if there was a problem but they assured us this is how the 2013's drive. They even brought us a 2013 roadster so we could feel its clutch, and it matched my wife's 2013 clutch feel (lighter/assisted the last 25% of the throw).
I thought a clutch stop might help as the clutch seems to be fully disengaged before the last 25% of the throw. I ordered the $10 BMS clutch stop, but this does not even come close to stopping the pedal throw (and when I tried to remove it, I broke it, plastic POS).
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions for a clutch stop that will work on my wife's 2013?
Does anyone have experience driving both years? Can you confirm that we are not crazy and that the clutches are different?
TIA!
I'd describe it like this:
2012: Resistance (push back) all the way through the pedal travel to the floor (100% of the throw).
2013: Resistance (push back) 75% of the pedal throw (towards the floor). After that, the pedal becomes "lighter", like it's assisted, for the last 25% of the pedal travel to the floor.
We both hate how her clutch feels/drives. She wishes she could get hers to feel more like mine. It's very hard to get a good feel on her clutch because right when the clutch is about to engage, the clutch become heavy (when you are lifting up your foot to engage the clutch, the assistance seems to come off and the pedal becomes "heavy" again) right at the wrong time in the pedal travel.
We've taken it to the dealer to see if there was a problem but they assured us this is how the 2013's drive. They even brought us a 2013 roadster so we could feel its clutch, and it matched my wife's 2013 clutch feel (lighter/assisted the last 25% of the throw).
I thought a clutch stop might help as the clutch seems to be fully disengaged before the last 25% of the throw. I ordered the $10 BMS clutch stop, but this does not even come close to stopping the pedal throw (and when I tried to remove it, I broke it, plastic POS).
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions for a clutch stop that will work on my wife's 2013?
Does anyone have experience driving both years? Can you confirm that we are not crazy and that the clutches are different?
TIA!
Edit: I went out and pushed on my 2013 JCW clutch to see what you were describing. What you are feeling in the last 25%, when pushing in the clutch,
is the total release of the clutch as the diaphragm fingers on the pressure plate are totally compressed or flattened out to release the clutch disc. When engaging the clutch the fingers are pushing against the throw out bearing until the clutch is fully engaged, giving you the power assist feeling. As for the 2012 it was beast to drive compared to my 2013 JCW.
Last edited by 1guru2; 01-09-2015 at 01:54 PM.
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BMS clutch stop for the win. Takes second to install and is easily removed. Highly recommended. I'm running it on my 13' fJCW and the clutch feels fantastic.
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
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BMS clutch stop for the win. Takes second to install and is easily removed. Highly recommended. I'm running it on my 13' fJCW and the clutch feels fantastic.
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
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BMS clutch stop for the win. Takes second to install and is easily removed. Highly recommended. I'm running it on my 13' fJCW and the clutch feels fantastic.
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
http://burgertuning.com/clutch_stop_mini_cooper.html
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How many rubber washers are you using? I find two is the sweet spot.
It only goes in one way. On my previous 2010 MCS, I actually had to snip half of the rubber post for the stop to fit in all the way. On my '13, the post did not need any modifications.
I can take some pictures tonight after work.
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Been driving manuals since 1955, and I must say that the clutch in my 2013 JCW Hardtop is the best and most drive-able I've ever owned. Maybe I just drive different than most folks. I never take my left heel off the floor when operating the clutch pedal, I just rock my foot back and forth as required. It's just so much easier to me to find the "sweet spot", and it's repeatable every time. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth!
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Been driving manuals since 1955, and I must say that the clutch in my 2013 JCW Hardtop is the best and most drive-able I've ever owned. Maybe I just drive different than most folks. I never take my left heel off the floor when operating the clutch pedal, I just rock my foot back and forth as required. It's just so much easier to me to find the "sweet spot", and it's repeatable every time. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth!
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