JCW New shoes - Michelin Pilot Super Sports...
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New shoes - Michelin Pilot Super Sports...
went to 215/45/17, and I must say, I've strayed away from Michelin in recent years, and the tread design is less than spectacular, but these things are great for the money. What a difference in ride and cornering (of course, I'm coming from the run flat bricks that slide all over the place). Can't wait til it rains and see how they do in the wet. If anyone is on the fence, my vote is for the SuperSports..
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went to 215/45/17, and I must say, I've strayed away from Michelin in recent years, and the tread design is less than spectacular, but these things are great for the money. What a difference in ride and cornering (of course, I'm coming from the run flat bricks that slide all over the place). Can't wait til it rains and see how they do in the wet. If anyone is on the fence, my vote is for the SuperSports..
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Sorry, there is absolutely nothing to like about the Dunlop run flats (or any of the other OEM RF's that come on MINI's) compared to a set of dedicated conventional summer performance tires. Runflats do what they do by having very stiff sidewalls. Sometimes people mistake that for a firm handling aid, but they are really just HARSH compared to non-RF's, and their tread compounds are much harder in general than other stuff out there. Performance tires should have some compliance dialed in, ultra-stiff suspension and tires as good handling parameters went the way of the dodo years ago.
If you ever get a chance to drive someone's MINI with a good set of non-RF's (I'm running Hankook Ventus V12's on mine) you will quickly see that they grip better, ride smoother, and provide better feedback.
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Sorry, there is absolutely nothing to like about the Dunlop run flats (or any of the other OEM RF's that come on MINI's) compared to a set of dedicated conventional summer performance tires. Runflats do what they do by having very stiff sidewalls. Sometimes people mistake that for a firm handling aid, but they are really just HARSH compared to non-RF's, and their tread compounds are much harder in general than other stuff out there. Performance tires should have some compliance dialed in, ultra-stiff suspension and tires as good handling parameters went the way of the dodo years ago.
If you ever get a chance to drive someone's MINI with a good set of non-RF's (I'm running Hankook Ventus V12's on mine) you will quickly see that they grip better, ride smoother, and provide better feedback.
If you ever get a chance to drive someone's MINI with a good set of non-RF's (I'm running Hankook Ventus V12's on mine) you will quickly see that they grip better, ride smoother, and provide better feedback.
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How much did you pay if you don't mind disclosing? I have my eye on the exact same tire, same size.
And +1 on the Dunlop run flats being lousy. It took my wife about 3 weeks to destroy 2 (in 2 separate incidents) on pot holes. The dealer had to replace 2 of them before they sold us the car!!! And when you can buy 4 for nearly the price of 1 in a non runflat it's a no brainer. My bike pump and plug kit will work just as well on a non runflat as it will on a run flat.
And +1 on the Dunlop run flats being lousy. It took my wife about 3 weeks to destroy 2 (in 2 separate incidents) on pot holes. The dealer had to replace 2 of them before they sold us the car!!! And when you can buy 4 for nearly the price of 1 in a non runflat it's a no brainer. My bike pump and plug kit will work just as well on a non runflat as it will on a run flat.
Last edited by smoke05S; 12-11-2011 at 10:52 AM.
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Does anyone have additional feedback on the Michilen Pilot Super Sport 215/45/17 on an R56?
Any tramlining or wandering feel? Any loss of steering response from the taller/softer sidewall? I'm sure they are much quieter and smoother, and provide outstanding grip in rain, but don't want to compromise on performance.
Any tramlining or wandering feel? Any loss of steering response from the taller/softer sidewall? I'm sure they are much quieter and smoother, and provide outstanding grip in rain, but don't want to compromise on performance.
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Coming from run flats...no issues on loosing any performance. Those RF's are dead bricks, especially after 10K miles, the compound changes and they are slick bricks in corners. The Super Sports are sticky and corner great. Are they shaved DE/AX tires (R1R's or 888's)? No, but give great performance for DD and weekend warrior fun...tread design is less than spectacular, but work well (kind of remind me of the old Michelin F1 tires). Haven't noticed any drop in sensitivity in steering etc., except my kidneys don't get punched when I go over a bridge expansion joint anymore...LOL
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Coming from run flats...no issues on loosing any performance. Those RF's are dead bricks, especially after 10K miles, the compound changes and they are slick bricks in corners. The Super Sports are sticky and corner great. Are they shaved DE/AX tires (R1R's or 888's)? No, but give great performance for DD and weekend warrior fun...tread design is less than spectacular, but work well (kind of remind me of the old Michelin F1 tires). Haven't noticed any drop in sensitivity in steering etc., except my kidneys don't get punched when I go over a bridge expansion joint anymore...LOL
Ray
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I'm sure you meant "H" rating because "Y" rating is for a higher speed (186 vs 168) then W. My car came with W's so that is what I should put back on. I have no intention of ever trying to drive it that fast.
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Well do you live in a colder climate? It's normal for MPG's to drop when the weather is colder. Also your speedo/odo will read differently this will affect how you calculate MPG's. I just got my RE11's. I haven't mounted them up to the car because of snow and freezing temps. I'll let everyone know my results when I do.
Ray
Ray
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Does anyone have additional feedback on the Michilen Pilot Super Sport 215/45/17 on an R56?
Any tramlining or wandering feel? Any loss of steering response from the taller/softer sidewall? I'm sure they are much quieter and smoother, and provide outstanding grip in rain, but don't want to compromise on performance.
Any tramlining or wandering feel? Any loss of steering response from the taller/softer sidewall? I'm sure they are much quieter and smoother, and provide outstanding grip in rain, but don't want to compromise on performance.
They are replacements for Continental DW that were on the treadbars at 18K miles.
So far, the Michelins seen to tramline less than did the Continentals.
I have nothing bad to say about the Contis.
I can’t put a finger on it, but there was ‘something’ about them that led me to go with the Michelins this time.
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Also your speedo/odo will read differently this will affect how you calculate MPG's.
Even if you don't add air as the temp drops (you should be adding or removing air for ever 10 degree change in temp.) there won't be enough of a change to the overall diameter to make a 4 MPG difference.
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Yes that is correct. However the 215/45/17 tire has a different overall diameter then the 205/45/17 which will change the way the speed/odo reads. If he is checking his mpg on just one tank of gas that isn't scientific enough to say he dropped 4 mpg. I would like to know a lot more data like how many tank fulls, do you top off the tank or nickel & dime it, weather conditions, do you warm the car up, do you go to the same station same pump, does anyone else drive the car, etc.. Or is this from the display avg mls per gallon.
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I'll buy your used run flats
Hello
SInce many here are "upgrading" if you kept your used Dunlop SP Sport 1 DSST run flats plus if they are in good condition with at least 50% tread left I would consider buying them. The newer the better. I'm looking for at least 2 but would buy 4 if the price and condition is right.
Have a 2009 JCW in case anyone is wondering.
I'm considering changing to non run flats but will go the use route if I can find a good pair for less then 4 new alternates.
I'm in South Florida and would consider pick up or shipping.
You can PM or email me
maxg765 at gmail dot com
Thanks
Max
SInce many here are "upgrading" if you kept your used Dunlop SP Sport 1 DSST run flats plus if they are in good condition with at least 50% tread left I would consider buying them. The newer the better. I'm looking for at least 2 but would buy 4 if the price and condition is right.
Have a 2009 JCW in case anyone is wondering.
I'm considering changing to non run flats but will go the use route if I can find a good pair for less then 4 new alternates.
I'm in South Florida and would consider pick up or shipping.
You can PM or email me
maxg765 at gmail dot com
Thanks
Max