JCW Stock vs. Sport Suspension vs. JCW Suspension
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Stock vs. Sport Suspension vs. JCW Suspension
Can anyone share their thoughts on these setups as far as Performance, and clarify whether my information is correct.
Stock -> Sport Suspension (adds Dampers and thicker Rear Sway Bar +17" wheels, DSC)
Stock -> JCW Suspension (adds Dampers, Springs, thicker Front and Rear Sway Bars)
Sport Suspension vs. JCW Suspension
Stock -> Sport Suspension (adds Dampers and thicker Rear Sway Bar +17" wheels, DSC)
Stock -> JCW Suspension (adds Dampers, Springs, thicker Front and Rear Sway Bars)
Sport Suspension vs. JCW Suspension
- Both use same Dampers and Rear sway bar
- Sport suspension includes: 17" wheels + DSC
- JCW suspension includes: a thicker Front Sway Bar, JCW Springs
- Neither kit is adjustable
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First of all, the sport package doesn't include the sport suspension. Supposedly the dampers and springs are slightly different, but who knows.
The JCW kit has a 18.5mm rear sway vs the sport's 18mm vs stock's 17mm and has different dampers from the SS setup.
The JCW kit has a 18.5mm rear sway vs the sport's 18mm vs stock's 17mm and has different dampers from the SS setup.
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Sways and tower bars are something I would totally get. Aftermarket price vs Mini' upgrade version... Any noticeable different in terms of real world performance?
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I ordered from assael monrovia. I was also looking into the JCW suspension, but I'm also thinking about just doing a rear sway to start with JCW springs to come later, since I don't want the car lowered too much and the spring rates are probably easy to live with.
I didn't notice a difference with or without the SS in testing, so I didn't bother ordering it. I haven't driven a car with the JCW suspension, so I have no idea what the difference is.
I didn't notice a difference with or without the SS in testing, so I didn't bother ordering it. I haven't driven a car with the JCW suspension, so I have no idea what the difference is.
Which dealer did you order from? I'm looking into MCS or even JCW package.. Not sure all these little tuning is worth it at dealer price. I pretty much mod my car so suspension wise I would probably get aftermarket( coilover or not, I don't do autox or track so something fun on the road without killing my back would be nice)
Sways and tower bars are something I would totally get. Aftermarket price vs Mini' upgrade version... Any noticeable different in terms of real world performance?
Sways and tower bars are something I would totally get. Aftermarket price vs Mini' upgrade version... Any noticeable different in terms of real world performance?
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I have been going through turmoil deciding about whether to get the Sport PACKAGE or go Ala Carte to my liking. After reading umpteen million threads on this site AND talking to my MA, I have decided to skip the sport package AND sport suspension all together.
Reasons why:
Runflats are just horrible for handling, noisy and are heavy and expensive to replace. I have had them on numerous BMWs and they are the first mod I make. Why dump money into a package that I know Im going to modify right away with better non RFTs?
The OEM wheels are HEAVY in 17" size...why pay $500 more for them when lighter wheels can be had that look way more stylish for not a whole lot more money. So I am putting that $500 into upgrading my wheels. The 16" S winders are going to be my winter wheels anyway...so it works out perfect for me.
The sport Suspension is a hoax...it basically adds an extra 1mm to the ASBar...for $500? Go aftermarket and get something thicker and better quality!
The options I am deleting are those that I can easily modify in the future. My MA told me that I would be really hardpressed to tell a huge difference in the handling of the MCS with and without the SPORT PACKAGE.
I am only getting the LSD and still on the fence about DSC. I actually turn DSC off in my M Roadster because it spoils the fun when I want to let the rearend loose on my car. The only time DSC has ever actually helped was in the winter snow once...other than that, I think its another basically useless option that I am going to leave turned off most of the time. I may purchase it though to increase resale value for the future.
Just my thoughts....
Reasons why:
Runflats are just horrible for handling, noisy and are heavy and expensive to replace. I have had them on numerous BMWs and they are the first mod I make. Why dump money into a package that I know Im going to modify right away with better non RFTs?
The OEM wheels are HEAVY in 17" size...why pay $500 more for them when lighter wheels can be had that look way more stylish for not a whole lot more money. So I am putting that $500 into upgrading my wheels. The 16" S winders are going to be my winter wheels anyway...so it works out perfect for me.
The sport Suspension is a hoax...it basically adds an extra 1mm to the ASBar...for $500? Go aftermarket and get something thicker and better quality!
The options I am deleting are those that I can easily modify in the future. My MA told me that I would be really hardpressed to tell a huge difference in the handling of the MCS with and without the SPORT PACKAGE.
I am only getting the LSD and still on the fence about DSC. I actually turn DSC off in my M Roadster because it spoils the fun when I want to let the rearend loose on my car. The only time DSC has ever actually helped was in the winter snow once...other than that, I think its another basically useless option that I am going to leave turned off most of the time. I may purchase it though to increase resale value for the future.
Just my thoughts....
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I have been going through turmoil deciding about whether to get the Sport PACKAGE or go Ala Carte to my liking. After reading umpteen million threads on this site AND talking to my MA, I have decided to skip the sport package AND sport suspension all together.
Reasons why:
Runflats are just horrible for handling, noisy and are heavy and expensive to replace. I have had them on numerous BMWs and they are the first mod I make. Why dump money into a package that I know Im going to modify right away with better non RFTs?
The OEM wheels are HEAVY in 17" size...why pay $500 more for them when lighter wheels can be had that look way more stylish for not a whole lot more money. So I am putting that $500 into upgrading my wheels. The 16" S winders are going to be my winter wheels anyway...so it works out perfect for me.
The sport Suspension is a hoax...it basically adds an extra 1mm to the ASBar...for $500? Go aftermarket and get something thicker and better quality!
The options I am deleting are those that I can easily modify in the future. My MA told me that I would be really hardpressed to tell a huge difference in the handling of the MCS with and without the SPORT PACKAGE.
I am only getting the LSD and still on the fence about DSC. I actually turn DSC off in my M Roadster because it spoils the fun when I want to let the rearend loose on my car. The only time DSC has ever actually helped was in the winter snow once...other than that, I think its another basically useless option that I am going to leave turned off most of the time. I may purchase it though to increase resale value for the future.
Just my thoughts....
Reasons why:
Runflats are just horrible for handling, noisy and are heavy and expensive to replace. I have had them on numerous BMWs and they are the first mod I make. Why dump money into a package that I know Im going to modify right away with better non RFTs?
The OEM wheels are HEAVY in 17" size...why pay $500 more for them when lighter wheels can be had that look way more stylish for not a whole lot more money. So I am putting that $500 into upgrading my wheels. The 16" S winders are going to be my winter wheels anyway...so it works out perfect for me.
The sport Suspension is a hoax...it basically adds an extra 1mm to the ASBar...for $500? Go aftermarket and get something thicker and better quality!
The options I am deleting are those that I can easily modify in the future. My MA told me that I would be really hardpressed to tell a huge difference in the handling of the MCS with and without the SPORT PACKAGE.
I am only getting the LSD and still on the fence about DSC. I actually turn DSC off in my M Roadster because it spoils the fun when I want to let the rearend loose on my car. The only time DSC has ever actually helped was in the winter snow once...other than that, I think its another basically useless option that I am going to leave turned off most of the time. I may purchase it though to increase resale value for the future.
Just my thoughts....
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It includes antisway bars (front/rear) that are 2mm thicker than stock (18mm rear on the SS). Most aftermarket people just get a 19mm rear bar and that's even better than the SS bar. Nobody even makes a front asb aftermarket. There are those who claim the SS also has slightly stiffer springs and dampers but that's really questionable IMO.
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I skimped on the suspension and audio. I will go aftermarket for both (and new wheels/tires). No sense in paying $500 just to rip all the stuff out when you upgrade it later. I see it as saving $500 on the package is $500 towards basic coilovers.
Now you want a headache, just read and search through all the suspension threads. Good God, I'm more lost now than I was when I first started reading. I have read on here that the part numbers are different for sport and non-sport supsension components.
Now you want a headache, just read and search through all the suspension threads. Good God, I'm more lost now than I was when I first started reading. I have read on here that the part numbers are different for sport and non-sport supsension components.
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It includes antisway bars (front/rear) that are 2mm thicker than stock (18mm rear on the SS). Most aftermarket people just get a 19mm rear bar and that's even better than the SS bar. Nobody even makes a front asb aftermarket. There are those who claim the SS also has slightly stiffer springs and dampers but that's really questionable IMO.
Do you know what the JCW suspension option includes?
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I'm interested in what the JCW suspension includes as well. Is that installed at the factory, VDC or dealer when ordering a new JCW MINI?
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