H Stock Do We Have a Shot Against the Fiesta ST & the Civic Si?
#27
10-16-2014, 11:24 AM
I don't have JCW stuff. 
I have run times within .3 sec. of Nick and Ryan (Teal MINI - which has just been replaced with a Focus ST) on OEM Sport Suspension springs whereas they had all the goodies... As you saw from Lincoln.
I only recently put OTS Koni Singles on it (July 2014).
I just learned today that the fixed IE camber plates, after settling and finding a home, are within +/- 1/16" (or 1.5mm) of OEM ride height. That's imperceptible. If that's the case, I'd forego the Swift springs as they're not all that stiff compared to what a proper STF build should use (i.e. 600lbs./in), and just add the plates should I do a mild STF build.
Or I could do nothing and just change the class magnet.
As for STF being slow, I will admit that doing too much doesn't help. Both Joe Austin, whom I know very well, and my friend Jeff Yatsko, who has a Mazda2 have a fair amount of development in them at this stage, and I can't say they're blisteringly fast (like the STC Civics are). So, perhaps less is more regarding STF.
I have run times within .3 sec. of Nick and Ryan (Teal MINI - which has just been replaced with a Focus ST) on OEM Sport Suspension springs whereas they had all the goodies... As you saw from Lincoln.
I only recently put OTS Koni Singles on it (July 2014).
I just learned today that the fixed IE camber plates, after settling and finding a home, are within +/- 1/16" (or 1.5mm) of OEM ride height. That's imperceptible. If that's the case, I'd forego the Swift springs as they're not all that stiff compared to what a proper STF build should use (i.e. 600lbs./in), and just add the plates should I do a mild STF build.
Or I could do nothing and just change the class magnet.
As for STF being slow, I will admit that doing too much doesn't help. Both Joe Austin, whom I know very well, and my friend Jeff Yatsko, who has a Mazda2 have a fair amount of development in them at this stage, and I can't say they're blisteringly fast (like the STC Civics are). So, perhaps less is more regarding STF.
one thing to note about STF this year though, lee's car was nowhere near prepped. a sunroof mini with springs and a cold air filter and that's about it, and he still took the class (at every nats event he went to). very impressive to say the least
#28
10-16-2014, 12:10 PM
EDIT: Looking at some photos I don't see an exhaust or race seats. However, I don't see a lot of body roll and camber loss on the front wheel either. I'm guessing the suspension isn't just "springs". Still though. Impressive.
Last edited by v10climber; 10-16-2014 at 12:41 PM.
#29
10-16-2014, 12:15 PM
that's what i was told from a close friend who ran with lee in STF at nationals, so I guess not 100% sure. The sunroof thing yes for sure, and the consensus was the car was practically stock save for springs and cold air filter. Pretty painful for some of the srsbzns guys chattering on roadraceautox
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