Considering GP2 vs JCW Coupe R58 v Fiesta St?
#26
#27
For a daily, the r58, my opinion only, the gp is a great car for me though I worry about it as a daily driver, it's too low, but drives amazing. I do like the stiffness of the coupe tho, that brace goes from side to side nicely....remember the gp was supposed to be a coupe dde0a
#31
Haha yeah it would be nice. I guess this is the major drawback when shopping for rare cars. The GP is awesome. I just wonder how close the JCW Coupe is!! The steering on the GP seems quicker than I remember my R56 being. I am wondering if the steering rack is different on those cars too.
Can you describe if the coupe and GP have different steering feel?
Also while being stiff the GP billsteins are great. I wonder if the coupe + sport/JCW feels anywhere close. The GP turn in is so immediate and crisp. The brakes are great too.
My ordered coupe could be here as early as 11/8 so perhaps I can just wait, but I found a few unsold GPs I may want to move on.
I am now really bummed I didn't get the GP in Camarillo. $31k w/1180 mi!!!
Can you describe if the coupe and GP have different steering feel?
Also while being stiff the GP billsteins are great. I wonder if the coupe + sport/JCW feels anywhere close. The GP turn in is so immediate and crisp. The brakes are great too.
My ordered coupe could be here as early as 11/8 so perhaps I can just wait, but I found a few unsold GPs I may want to move on.
I am now really bummed I didn't get the GP in Camarillo. $31k w/1180 mi!!!
#32
Sorry to butt in but I went to Mini of Camarillo to pick up my other car today. We took Amtrak to Camarillo and Kim from the dealer came to pick us up on time at the station. Super friendly and nice person/dealership. They got my car all washed and filled up with gas all ready to go. Kept it real nice for the past 5 days. I wish the dealership is close to me so I can take my GP for service.
#33
Sorry to butt in but I went to Mini of Camarillo to pick up my other car today. We took Amtrak to Camarillo and Kim from the dealer came to pick us up on time at the station. Super friendly and nice person/dealership. They got my car all washed and filled up with gas all ready to go. Kept it real nice for the past 5 days. I wish the dealership is close to me so I can take my GP for service.
#34
Haha yeah it would be nice. I guess this is the major drawback when shopping for rare cars. The GP is awesome. I just wonder how close the JCW Coupe is!! The steering on the GP seems quicker than I remember my R56 being. I am wondering if the steering rack is different on those cars too. Can you describe if the coupe and GP have different steering feel? Also while being stiff the GP billsteins are great. I wonder if the coupe + sport/JCW feels anywhere close. The GP turn in is so immediate and crisp. The brakes are great too. My ordered coupe could be here as early as 11/8 so perhaps I can just wait, but I found a few unsold GPs I may want to move on. I am now really bummed I didn't get the GP in Camarillo. $31k w/1180 mi!!!
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
#35
The steering on the GP seems quicker than I remember my R56 being. I am wondering if the steering rack is different on those cars too. rare cars.
Can you describe if the coupe and GP have different steering feel?
Also while being stiff the GP billsteins are great. I wonder if the coupe + sport/JCW feels anywhere close. The GP turn in is so immediate and crisp. The brakes are great too.
Can you describe if the coupe and GP have different steering feel?
Also while being stiff the GP billsteins are great. I wonder if the coupe + sport/JCW feels anywhere close. The GP turn in is so immediate and crisp. The brakes are great too.
The GP comes with negative camber on the front, and neutral to slight toe out. This gives it fantastic turn in feel. On the downside it also makes the car tend to wander on the road, tram track slightly etc.
You might find this article interesting. It is a review I was involved in of GP2 vs JCW vs JCW with KW coilovers http://www.ausmotive.com/2013/08/03/...v-mini-gp.html
#36
The steering rack is the same. The difference in feel you describe is mainly due to the wheel alignment, and to some degree the kumho's. The GP comes with negative camber on the front, and neutral to slight toe out. This gives it fantastic turn in feel. On the downside it also makes the car tend to wander on the road, tram track slightly etc. You might find this article interesting. It is a review I was involved in of GP2 vs JCW vs JCW with KW coilovers http://www.ausmotive.com/2013/08/03/...v-mini-gp.html
#37
Well I'm still fairly up in the air. I love the Coupe, but I just recently drove the GP and that is definitely the best R56 mini I've ever driven. I've never driven the R58 coupe unfortunately so I can't do a ranking there.
So my current plan is to wait for the R58 to get here, try it out then make my choice. I've found a great GP at a great price, but it's far away from me. I'm not sure if I want to go through all that trouble, but I kinda do.
So my current plan is to wait for the R58 to get here, try it out then make my choice. I've found a great GP at a great price, but it's far away from me. I'm not sure if I want to go through all that trouble, but I kinda do.
#39
I figure its time for me to chime in here. I had a 2015 FIST which I quickly did the stage 3 tune on. The car was a monster and would keep up with Caymans and cars way outside its price range in the twisties.
Here's my owner review, make sure you go to the end because I talk about it after returning the lease. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...sta_ST_30000_m
I recently picked up a really clean and sorted 2006 R53 with 104,000 miles and I would say they are very different cars.
Let me know if you have specific questions about the car.
Here's my owner review, make sure you go to the end because I talk about it after returning the lease. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...sta_ST_30000_m
I recently picked up a really clean and sorted 2006 R53 with 104,000 miles and I would say they are very different cars.
Let me know if you have specific questions about the car.
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#41
Hi Ckussoff,
I just bought Ohlins for my GP2, as well, i was wondering if I could go without the Vorshlag plates. I was told on this forum that the ohlins, if lowered to the stock GP2 height would still give me the -1.5 camber, without having to add the plates. Do you know if this is correct?
Thanks
I just bought Ohlins for my GP2, as well, i was wondering if I could go without the Vorshlag plates. I was told on this forum that the ohlins, if lowered to the stock GP2 height would still give me the -1.5 camber, without having to add the plates. Do you know if this is correct?
Thanks
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