Will not be driving mini in rain any more.
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Will not be driving mini in rain any more.
Found out last I won't be driving wife's Clubman "Lulu" in the rain at night anymore.
I am 72 and wear glasses. Drove home from a meeting last night in the rain. I was almost blinded by the glare from on coming headlights, and wet streets. My glasses have coating on the to help with glare but the Mini sits so low the on coming headlight are almost at eye level. Went out later to pickup Pizza and use our 04 Expedition "Big Green" had no problem as I was siting up higher. Wife doesn't drive at night as she has no night vision. I have noticed that driving Mini at night in the dry isn't to bad the oncoming headlight still bother but in rain I am almost blind. Driving in day light is fine and car is perfectly safe and handles great in the rain. Beside don't want to Lulu to wet she might shrink or get dirty. Sure glad I am not the Western NY and the snow. Found one thing last no water leaks from sunroof, door or windows Had basically same problem driving my 66 Mustang and 83 Firebird only I was younger. Mustang is in storage for the winter, why risk it getting hit. Firebird was the worst car I ever had, sent it to U Pull it at 85K miles.
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I am 72 and wear glasses. Drove home from a meeting last night in the rain. I was almost blinded by the glare from on coming headlights, and wet streets. My glasses have coating on the to help with glare but the Mini sits so low the on coming headlight are almost at eye level. Went out later to pickup Pizza and use our 04 Expedition "Big Green" had no problem as I was siting up higher. Wife doesn't drive at night as she has no night vision. I have noticed that driving Mini at night in the dry isn't to bad the oncoming headlight still bother but in rain I am almost blind. Driving in day light is fine and car is perfectly safe and handles great in the rain. Beside don't want to Lulu to wet she might shrink or get dirty. Sure glad I am not the Western NY and the snow. Found one thing last no water leaks from sunroof, door or windows Had basically same problem driving my 66 Mustang and 83 Firebird only I was younger. Mustang is in storage for the winter, why risk it getting hit. Firebird was the worst car I ever had, sent it to U Pull it at 85K miles.
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The windshield is fine inside and out. It just old eyes, seating position (low) oncoming headlights are basically at eye level when driving the mini. Just Glare and reflection of the rain. Drove the Expedition sitting higher no problem. Notice where the headlights are on the Expedition and windshield is on the Mini. California loves their SUV'S and Pickups.
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I feel for you. Those who are too young cannot empathize with older folks on certain issues. I'm "only" 65 and have been lucky enough not to have issues in this regard (won't get into pacemaker and hearing aides!!) but I fully understand what you are talking about. And the danged high vehicles do exacerbate the problem for certain.
Be safe and enjoy the Mini when it isn't raining at night!
Be safe and enjoy the Mini when it isn't raining at night!
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Yellow lenses most certainly help in poor light conditions - thye do raise the apparent light level in your vision - cyclists have been using yellow lenses (inter changeable with clear and tint) in their riding glasses for years. I found yellow lenses good in low light forest trail riding, but once in the open they exaggerate the light level further, to abnormal levels.
RainX can help but it can also cause the starlight effect - I have several (30-45 yr old) friends who tried it and liked it in the daylight but hated the star burst effect of oncoming headlights.
I have GtechniQ G1 on currently and that does seem less prone.
But in response to the relatively low driving height of the Mini, especially in the land of the truck and SUV does present issues.
RainX can help but it can also cause the starlight effect - I have several (30-45 yr old) friends who tried it and liked it in the daylight but hated the star burst effect of oncoming headlights.
I have GtechniQ G1 on currently and that does seem less prone.
But in response to the relatively low driving height of the Mini, especially in the land of the truck and SUV does present issues.
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My Brother in Law is an Optometrist so I have many pair of glasses for different things. My everyday glass are treated to help with night vision and the "starlight effect" and glare but the Mini is so low it does no good in the rain. Regular night driving is OK but prefer the higher seating in the Expedition. Getting old is a B*#*H so you learn compensate and move on. it will keep the mini cleaner by not driving in the rain. Don't have deal with the spray kicked up by bigger vehicles.
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It's just rainy nights where the problem is just the added glare and stuff from the rain. Normal night fine, a little "starlight" but not enough to cause problem will talk with BIL in January when I go for my Annual eye exam, I am learning something as I age and have better understanding of what other senior are going through staying mobil. I leave a little more room drive a little slower on the freeway in traffic. Vision isn't as great, reflex are slower just part of aging. Pray to God I know when to quit. Still feel I am safe competent driver, can still hustle my vintage midget around on track days not a 10/10 but 7 or 8/10 the midget is almost as old as I am but doesn't need as much maintenance,
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It's just rainy nights where the problem is just the added glare and stuff from the rain. Normal night fine, a little "starlight" but not enough to cause problem will talk with BIL in January when I go for my Annual eye exam, I am learning something as I age and have better understanding of what other senior are going through staying mobil. I leave a little more room drive a little slower on the freeway in traffic. Vision isn't as great, reflex are slower just part of aging. Pray to God I know when to quit. Still feel I am safe competent driver, can still hustle my vintage midget around on track days not a 10/10 but 7 or 8/10 the midget is almost as old as I am but doesn't need as much maintenance,
Yes...the height of a MINI makes driving at night glare filled...even for the young.
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I'm younger than TBRoye but suffered the same issues in any car I drove at night. Didn't find that the car seating height had any effect for me. Changed my diet, lost weight and the night driving became a lot easier on me. Having better glasses is certainly a plus, but it is amazing how much good eating does for you. I won't preach the specifics of the diet, that is for other forums.
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Last year this time I wighed 198 wife weighed 182. Wednesday I weighed 157 she weighed 152. Didn't help the eye sight to much but sure helped the back and legs we both now walk 2-4 miles a day and other days we are in the Gym for an hour toning up not adding muscle but getting stronger with out bulking up. Much easier getting in the Mini probably wouldn't have bought one at old weight. Like I told the trainer I don't want to be a buff 165 but a toned 155.
Last year this time I wighed 198 wife weighed 182. Wednesday I weighed 157 she weighed 152. Didn't help the eye sight to much but sure helped the back and legs we both now walk 2-4 miles a day and other days we are in the Gym for an hour toning up not adding muscle but getting stronger with out bulking up. Much easier getting in the Mini probably wouldn't have bought one at old weight. Like I told the trainer I don't want to be a buff 165 but a toned 155.
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My Brother in Law is an Optometrist so I have many pair of glasses for different things. My everyday glass are treated to help with night vision and the "starlight effect" and glare but the Mini is so low it does no good in the rain. Regular night driving is OK but prefer the higher seating in the Expedition. Getting old is a B*#*H so you learn compensate and move on. it will keep the mini cleaner by not driving in the rain. Don't have deal with the spray kicked up by bigger vehicles.
Anyway, I have not noticed the problem that you mentioned. In thinking about it, I tend not to look at the front of a vehicle that is going past me. That isn't the place you want to focus. I guess I have a habit of momentarily looking straight ahead or slightly to the right when someone passes.
This seems a little like how some have complained about the barn doors of the Clubman and how the vertical shape between the doors is annoying. The thing is that shouldn't be the focus of one's vision. The focus should be well outside of the car and not inside.
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The wipers are fine they were new when wife bought the mini in September. It is just 72 year old eyes and glasses and sitting in a go kart. Just the reflection of light through the rain at night. Driving my Toyota Tacoma or Expedition no problem, higher sitting position. Will be seeing my Brother in Law in January for new glasses will see what he has to off other than the coating they put on these glasses.
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The wipers are fine they were new when wife bought the mini in September. It is just 72 year old eyes and glasses and sitting in a go kart. Just the reflection of light through the rain at night. Driving my Toyota Tacoma or Expedition no problem, higher sitting position. Will be seeing my Brother in Law in January for new glasses will see what he has to off other than the coating they put on these glasses.
Tom
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Go for the better antireflective coatings, like Crizal Avance or Sapphire or similar
from another brand. That helps a little.
At age 72, there may be some lens clouding (early cataracts) in your eyes and that
certainly brings out flare and glare, especially at night when the pupils dilate.
from another brand. That helps a little.
At age 72, there may be some lens clouding (early cataracts) in your eyes and that
certainly brings out flare and glare, especially at night when the pupils dilate.
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I have Crizal on them now don't have Cataracts. Don't have the problem in the bigger taller vehicles we have. Just with all the SUV's and Pickups in California especially in Sacramento, the headlight are at my eye level when driving the Mini. Rain at night is the problem during the day it is fine. As my Brother in Law is my Optometrist I will talk to him in January when I go in for my annulaly eye check and new glasses.
Tom
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I guess there's no easy way around the laws of physics (optics) between
the heights and angles of our cars vs. the tall behomoths that surround us.
I'm tempted to suggest making sure the seat is adjusted as high as it goes,
but I'm sure the difference that would make would be minimal.
I believe you have a 2011 Clubman, so the windshield should still be pretty good
and not pitted like my 2003 Cooper's.
I'm not a fan of Rain-X, especially in the winter, but I have had very good
experience with Aquapel glass treatment and PIAA Silicone wiper blades in
keeping the windshield clearer in the rain.
the heights and angles of our cars vs. the tall behomoths that surround us.
I'm tempted to suggest making sure the seat is adjusted as high as it goes,
but I'm sure the difference that would make would be minimal.
I believe you have a 2011 Clubman, so the windshield should still be pretty good
and not pitted like my 2003 Cooper's.
I'm not a fan of Rain-X, especially in the winter, but I have had very good
experience with Aquapel glass treatment and PIAA Silicone wiper blades in
keeping the windshield clearer in the rain.
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