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Old 02-06-2011, 09:26 AM
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importing diesel mini to USA

Has anyone experience with importing a mini from Europe? I'm wanting a new mini but am perplexed with ho-hum mpg on the new models. I'm looking at a diesel (or any word these will become available is US?). Our other car is a VW golf TDI and is very nice; my main love though is our mini! Would additional mods be needed to be able to register a mini diesel here? Any thoughts most appreciated. thanks
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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Refer to Motoringfile.com and search diesel in the list at the bottom of the page.
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Ya MINI pretty much said for the cost of making the diesel and importing it to the US they would have to charge over $30k for just a base Cooper. Not to be th negative Nancy but it really isn't worth it. On top of the fact with petrol being at the price it is and diesel the price it is you are spending roughly the same over the whole year.
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thanks...

for info and ref to motoringfile - i'm still gungho on diesel though. my golf tdi cost more than gas model, and most cleaner/greener products do today. yes it'd be great to recoup extra cost in brief time period but that's not happening. i personally would be happy to pay extra $ for diesel model and feel alot of usa buyers would - especially when they see the mileage doubles! i live in the corn state where everyone is blinded by gasohol - what a joke. I'll keep hoping for a diesel import.
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Importing a diesel mini to USA

If your really serious and price is not an obstacle an Independent Commercial Importer (ICI)
may be just who your looking for to bring a Mini Diesel into the country.

The following site is just one of many that should be helpful:

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm...ingyourcar.htm

Imported motor vehicles are subject to U.S. safety standards, bumper standards, and air pollution control (emission) standards. Most vehicles manufactured abroad that conform with U.S. safety, bumper, and emission standards are exported expressly for sale in the United States; therefore, it is unlikely that a vehicle obtained abroad meets all relevant standards. Be skeptical of claims by a foreign dealer or other seller that a vehicle meets these standards or can readily be brought into compliance. Nonconforming vehicles entering the United States must be brought into compliance, exported, or destroyed.

Vehicles that do not meet all U.S. emission requirements, unless eligible for exemption or exclusion must be imported through an independent commercial importer (ICI). The EPA will not allow the vehicles’ release to the vehicle owner until ICI work is complete. The ICI will perform any EPA-required modifications and be responsible for assuring that all EPA requirements have been met. Some vehicles cannot be successfully imported or modified by an ICI, however, and in general, ICI fees are very high.

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My understanding was... that the reason they are not bringing the MINI D here had less to do with the price point and more to do with the fact that it cannot be built in such a way that it will meet California emissions standards, is that incorrect?
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Has anyone experience with importing a mini from Europe? I'm wanting a new mini but am perplexed with ho-hum mpg on the new models. I'm looking at a diesel (or any word these will become available is US?). Our other car is a VW golf TDI and is very nice; my main love though is our mini! Would additional mods be needed to be able to register a mini diesel here? Any thoughts most appreciated. thanks
It would cost you so much to get the car here, go through the regulatory red tape and get it compliant with US emissions that you'd be able to buy a regular Cooper (or perhaps a Cooper S) loaded to the gills and buy a lifetime supply of gas and still have a lot of money left over.

And that's not even considering the toll the stress will have on your life expectancy.
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Sounds like it would be less expensive to move to Europe.
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Importing diesel mini to USA

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My understanding was... that the reason they are not bringing the MINI D here had less to do with the price point and more to do with the fact that it cannot be built in such a way that it will meet California emissions standards, is that incorrect?
Yes that's incorrect.

It's the price point due to the cost of reconfiguring the rear of the car to accept all the new equipment.

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Actually, they do bring the diesels to Canada, right? So you could go to Canada and buy one and at least the shipping would cost less (depending on where you are) and isn't there some law about North American emissions standards? So if it's good enough for Canada, it should be good enough for us, right? I don't know much, but I've read some.

Getting warranty work would not be possible I bet.
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Ah ha... found it:

We're both right, though it wasn't California emissions standards that were the problem. It's the EPA's 2013 standards.

The new equipment you mentioned is a urea mixture tank, wiring and pump and etc... which are used for reducing CO2 emissions from diesel engines. These are not required in Europe.

So while the price point was a problem, the reason for it, is because of US emissions standards for diesel engines.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2011/01/...the-us-market/
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Being a diesel guy too I can tell you one thing. The new (2007 up) diesels have issues with the new clean air systems (DPF's EGR, and Urea injection)
You really dont want one of them yet.

Remember 1975 when the cat came out and how bad they were the first few years (Until fuel injection became mainstream)

The same thing is happening with diesels right now.

They will get it right in a few years but I for one would stay away from anything with those above mentioned systems right now.

I have a 2009 Dodge Cummins that HAD DPF and EGR. Was back to the dealer 5-6 times in the first 6 months. I removed them and have not had a dealer visit since. (hunderds out there with same story)

The last thing you would want is aftermarket clean air systems (right now)
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I'm trying to find out the same thing too.

Talking to a shipping company right now and they are trying to find out for me if there is somebody certified to bring the Euro spec MINI SD up to US standard (I assume it has to be done through an independent commercial importer since you're not able to import a non-US vehicle by yourself).

If I understood the article right the urea injection is only mandatory from 2013 models onwards which is why MINI decided against it because they could only sell the car as is for 2 years instead of up to 4 if the EPA standard wouldn't change in 2013.
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