F54 Sport Tuning Boxes for F54 Clubwomen and Clubmen
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Did a couple of timed 0 - 60 runs today.
48 degrees F
At Sea Level
91 octane Chevron pump gas from the corner gas station/tank a quarter full
No passengers, no junk in the trunk except the factory temp spare&jack kit
Front tires at 35 psi nitrogen fill/rears at 32 psi
Dinan set to +4 psi
Car in Sport Mode
Other than the Dinan, no other mods
Did NOT use launch control -- just put my foot all the way in it and let the automatic tranny shift when it wanted to.
0 - 60 worst time = 6.3
0 - 60 best time = 6.1
So I'm saying on a cool day, the stock Clubman All4 S with only the Dinan SPT will do 0 - 60 on a flat straight road at sea level in 6.2 ticks without any extraordinary driving techniques. Wouldn't be surprised if we could get it under 6 using launch.
Sounded and felt faster than it was. Almost no torque steer -- the All 4 did its thing.
48 degrees F
At Sea Level
91 octane Chevron pump gas from the corner gas station/tank a quarter full
No passengers, no junk in the trunk except the factory temp spare&jack kit
Front tires at 35 psi nitrogen fill/rears at 32 psi
Dinan set to +4 psi
Car in Sport Mode
Other than the Dinan, no other mods
Did NOT use launch control -- just put my foot all the way in it and let the automatic tranny shift when it wanted to.
0 - 60 worst time = 6.3
0 - 60 best time = 6.1
So I'm saying on a cool day, the stock Clubman All4 S with only the Dinan SPT will do 0 - 60 on a flat straight road at sea level in 6.2 ticks without any extraordinary driving techniques. Wouldn't be surprised if we could get it under 6 using launch.
Sounded and felt faster than it was. Almost no torque steer -- the All 4 did its thing.
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Yeah- about $300. Looks like a pretty respectable increase in fun for the price- and the quick install/removal process is perfect for anyone concerned about warranty issues, or has a lease. Seems reliable and doesn't appear to push things to the extent of being risky. I bet Big Newt is right and that ALL4 will help out with 0-60 times.
My Clubman S ALL4 will likely be around by the beginning of March- and I suppose I should break it in properly before I buy a box... of course, this would also help to let me appreciate the increase in power. :-)
My Clubman S ALL4 will likely be around by the beginning of March- and I suppose I should break it in properly before I buy a box... of course, this would also help to let me appreciate the increase in power. :-)
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I've had my Dinantronixs for about a month now. Quite happy with it. It definitely gives you a nice extra boot in the ***. I only now drive in Sport mode on Full Race. Why bother with the lower settings. I want the on demand extra power! It certainly adds a little extra grin, here and there. It is definitely noticable and makes the heavier (than other Minis) car quite a bit quicker and livelier. Worth the $300.
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One question to add to the folks running the boxes...what effect has it had on your overall gas mileage?? I am all for the added power and would expect more grunt to notch a little out of your miles per tank, but how much to expect? This is my daily driver, so I would hate to lose to much. TIA.
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One question to add to the folks running the boxes...what effect has it had on your overall gas mileage?? I am all for the added power and would expect more grunt to notch a little out of your miles per tank, but how much to expect? This is my daily driver, so I would hate to lose to much. TIA.
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One question to add to the folks running the boxes...what effect has it had on your overall gas mileage?? I am all for the added power and would expect more grunt to notch a little out of your miles per tank, but how much to expect? This is my daily driver, so I would hate to lose to much. TIA.
However, the right foot has gotten heavier around town for sure, thus a slight diminution in stop and go MPG Accompanied by a marked increase in driving satisfaction
Point is, it seems to be more about how one drives rather than the tuning box itself.
YMMV
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Thanx guys for the feedback, kind of what I figured. I was hoping not to hear that you lost like 5 mpg in 'regular' driving, but simply related to an increase in the fun-o-meter.
My Mustang is a similar case with its 2.3L turbo setup and effect on MPG. Steady state highway = 28 mpg; 'easy' city driving = 20 mpg; track day driving = 6 mpg!
My Mustang is a similar case with its 2.3L turbo setup and effect on MPG. Steady state highway = 28 mpg; 'easy' city driving = 20 mpg; track day driving = 6 mpg!
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2,000 Mile Dinan Update
The odometer just turned over 2,000 miles. After over 3 months of continuous use, not a single hiccup.
Only using 91 top tier pump gas from the local station.
Most fun is in Sport Mode, with stronger throttle response and tighter auto tranny shift algorithm adding to the sense of zip. When I put my foot on it hard in Sport Mode, it really gets up and goes.
In Mid Mode everything is a bit more relaxed and smoother. When I put my foot on it hard in Mid Mode, it takes a few quick ticks to wind up but from 2,000 RPM onward the car scoots along briskly.
After a couple of weeks initially in Sport+ Mode, I have kept the Dinan in Race Mode without any indication of knocking, no CEL's, and, other than a very slight diminution in gas mileage due to driver's need for speed, all appears happy so far.
Driving on a flat straightaway at a steady, calm 60MPH at 60 degrees F, the car shows instant gas mileage over 40MPG.
This is the way the car should have come from the factory, IMHO.
I'd be interested to hear the experiences others are having as they put some miles on their cars with sport tuning boxes in use.
Only using 91 top tier pump gas from the local station.
Most fun is in Sport Mode, with stronger throttle response and tighter auto tranny shift algorithm adding to the sense of zip. When I put my foot on it hard in Sport Mode, it really gets up and goes.
In Mid Mode everything is a bit more relaxed and smoother. When I put my foot on it hard in Mid Mode, it takes a few quick ticks to wind up but from 2,000 RPM onward the car scoots along briskly.
After a couple of weeks initially in Sport+ Mode, I have kept the Dinan in Race Mode without any indication of knocking, no CEL's, and, other than a very slight diminution in gas mileage due to driver's need for speed, all appears happy so far.
Driving on a flat straightaway at a steady, calm 60MPH at 60 degrees F, the car shows instant gas mileage over 40MPG.
This is the way the car should have come from the factory, IMHO.
I'd be interested to hear the experiences others are having as they put some miles on their cars with sport tuning boxes in use.
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As far as local driving, still only use the Sport/Race combo. With my short daily commute (4.5 miles each way), it's the best way to enjoy the trip. Usually when the boss is in the car and we are running around, I'll leave it in mid.
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Lots of discussion regarding intakes all over the forum. Bottom line -- if you want more sound an intake will give it to you. If you want more power you can feel, not so much.
The stock BMW air box is well-engineered for a balance of silencing and cool air volume.
Many intakes draw from the engine compartment, with warm air negating any potential gains. Even K&N admits that their dyno results were with the bonnet OPEN, to keep things cool. At best, as part of a complete tune, air intakes help, maybe, a little.
WHEREAS, call around to ECS and others and you can get a Dinan shipped to your home or office and probably get a good deal to boot. And your boot will feel it. Check out the charts on the Dinan site and also see the good things people have to say about NM and JB.
The stock BMW air box is well-engineered for a balance of silencing and cool air volume.
Many intakes draw from the engine compartment, with warm air negating any potential gains. Even K&N admits that their dyno results were with the bonnet OPEN, to keep things cool. At best, as part of a complete tune, air intakes help, maybe, a little.
WHEREAS, call around to ECS and others and you can get a Dinan shipped to your home or office and probably get a good deal to boot. And your boot will feel it. Check out the charts on the Dinan site and also see the good things people have to say about NM and JB.
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BTW -- I did an intake mod on my V12 Jag XJS. The dual stock intakes drew from the VERY HOT engine compartment and the intake nozzles were tapered for maximum silencing.
I installed K&N filters (despite the great debate about whether oil from the filter would be bad for the intake system). I then modified the air boxes, welding larger intake tubes which I ran through concealed holes in the headlamp assemblies so that outside air rammed directly into the air boxes. BIG improvement in mileage and no more knocking and, when I put my foot in it, I hear a nice, gentle but angry growl from the intake. No issues over the years and miles.
But the Jag is a 1980's-era car. The 3rd gen MINI air box is state-of-the-art. Maybe not as pretty under the hood as some pricey aftermarket choices, but, if you look at the box in the JCW Clubman you can't tell the difference between it and what's in the standard S. So I'm thinking the factory box supports 228 HP just fine.
Probably more than you wanted to hear -- but there you are.
I installed K&N filters (despite the great debate about whether oil from the filter would be bad for the intake system). I then modified the air boxes, welding larger intake tubes which I ran through concealed holes in the headlamp assemblies so that outside air rammed directly into the air boxes. BIG improvement in mileage and no more knocking and, when I put my foot in it, I hear a nice, gentle but angry growl from the intake. No issues over the years and miles.
But the Jag is a 1980's-era car. The 3rd gen MINI air box is state-of-the-art. Maybe not as pretty under the hood as some pricey aftermarket choices, but, if you look at the box in the JCW Clubman you can't tell the difference between it and what's in the standard S. So I'm thinking the factory box supports 228 HP just fine.
Probably more than you wanted to hear -- but there you are.
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Lots of discussion regarding intakes all over the forum. Bottom line -- if you want more sound an intake will give it to you. If you want more power you can feel, not so much.
The stock BMW air box is well-engineered for a balance of silencing and cool air volume.
Many intakes draw from the engine compartment, with warm air negating any potential gains. Even K&N admits that their dyno results were with the bonnet OPEN, to keep things cool. At best, as part of a complete tune, air intakes help, maybe, a little.
WHEREAS, call around to ECS and others and you can get a Dinan shipped to your home or office and probably get a good deal to boot. And your boot will feel it. Check out the charts on the Dinan site and also see the good things people have to say about NM and JB.
The stock BMW air box is well-engineered for a balance of silencing and cool air volume.
Many intakes draw from the engine compartment, with warm air negating any potential gains. Even K&N admits that their dyno results were with the bonnet OPEN, to keep things cool. At best, as part of a complete tune, air intakes help, maybe, a little.
WHEREAS, call around to ECS and others and you can get a Dinan shipped to your home or office and probably get a good deal to boot. And your boot will feel it. Check out the charts on the Dinan site and also see the good things people have to say about NM and JB.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_F55_F56_Dinantronics_Sport_Performance_Tuner_ 21766/
The nice thing is its plug and play. We carry the Dinan plate frames and Marque plates also.
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