Drivetrain 135i Brembos (Same as Mini GP2s) upgrade thread. Dump info in here!
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I would think that going over 26mm on the width of the rotors would be kinda risky. It can be done, but the measurements would have to change in order to center the rotor without it grinding on the caliper.
30mm would be the widest rotor size you can use.....and not really you will have clearance issues.
30mm would be the widest rotor size you can use.....and not really you will have clearance issues.
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Aren't the GP2 rotors slotted or drilled? Hard to resurface
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I'll have to wait to get home to find out the part # in the bracket for the 135i Brembos. But they are nowhere to be found online either, I was searching last night.
On the rotors size:
What I was thinking is that once the caliper is set in place:
If the rotor is bigger and has a different offset (depending on the brand), would it create friction?
I remember doing this on my old 350z, I adapted some wilwood brakes and created the bracket myself...but from wilwood I had all the drawings and measurments needed.
On the other hand, I'm still waiting on Brembo to respond to my inquiry.
Keep posting guys, thoughts, ideas and anyhthing you may want to add.
BTW, I also talked to Todd at TCE Brakes in AZ and he said that he could develop the brackets as long as he has a rotor, the caliper and the pads on his hand. He will charge a $200 engineering fee and obviosly the material cost. He can also machine a couple of them. Just an idea.
But I doubt we would have to reingineer far away from the 135i caliper adapter, its just a matter of repositioning the holes for the bolts to adapt to the mini.
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Yes, I would have done it a while a go, but I first would have to ship one GP2 brake rotor to the guy first, He said it would take about two weeks
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
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Wilwood lists rotors that would work. If you ask them for a GP2 application they will of course say no. They didn't have rotors for a Mazdaspeed Protege either but I had Wilwood brakes on mine.
#38
Maybe 6 or 20, hmmm 27? I actually have no idea
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
#39
Spending $900 on rotors kind of takes the savings of out buying used 135 calipers.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
#41
Spending $900 on rotors kind of takes the savings of out buying used 135 calipers.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
#42
Spending $900 on rotors kind of takes the savings of out buying used 135 calipers.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
GP2 rotors are only $258.60 for the pair on ECStuning.
How cheap are you getting the calipers?
I've only seen centric reman calipers for ~$400 a side when you get new GP2 calipers for ~$600 with correct brackets I don't see where the huge savings are coming in.
Thanks for putting this back into perspective EuroTechAZ. I thought we already had discussed that the rotors were a solved issue. I payed $300.00 plus shipping for my calipers, and they are in pretty good shape. But my main focus is getting the brakes on the car at a reasonable price and a doing a decent job. I do not, however, want to reinvent the wheel. There is plenty of info out there, we just need to put it together.
I talked to a couple of Brembo brake distributors and they don't seem to carry the adapter....and they can't provide me a direct line to communicate either. I will call a "stealership" and see if they can make it happen. If all else fails, there is a local machine shop that is willing to fabricate one for me.
Take into consideration that I have not taken my OEM caliper out and put in the 135i calipers to see if they are direct fit with the adapters they have. Will know for sure tomorrow.
Later tonight I will put together all the information I have gathered, part numbers and things needed.
Manny
(Any CNC machine guys are welcome to chime in)
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I got very lucky to be honest with you. A guy was parting out a rear ended 135i...and I creeped to the forum and snagged them.
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So far here are the part #s:
BMW 135i:
Caliper Left: 34106786059 (Brembo #) 20.9994.10 1A
Caliper Right: 34106786060 (Brembo #) 20.9994.09 1A
Bracket Left:20.4078.00 (Brembo #)
Bracket Right: 20.4078.00 (Brembo #)
Pads:34 11 6 786 044
GP2:
Caliper Left: 34106858069
Caliper Right: 34106858070
Bracket Left: 20.9747.85 (Brembo #)
Bracket Right: 20.9747.85 (Brembo #)
Pads: Same as 135i
Collar Screws x4 M12X1,5X32 ZNS3: Part #: 34206850536
Pad Guide pins x8: 34116780506
Rotors: 34116858071KT
Brake Line: 34306858079
There guys.... Phewww! Hope this helps your hunting.
BMW 135i:
Caliper Left: 34106786059 (Brembo #) 20.9994.10 1A
Caliper Right: 34106786060 (Brembo #) 20.9994.09 1A
Bracket Left:20.4078.00 (Brembo #)
Bracket Right: 20.4078.00 (Brembo #)
Pads:34 11 6 786 044
GP2:
Caliper Left: 34106858069
Caliper Right: 34106858070
Bracket Left: 20.9747.85 (Brembo #)
Bracket Right: 20.9747.85 (Brembo #)
Pads: Same as 135i
Collar Screws x4 M12X1,5X32 ZNS3: Part #: 34206850536
Pad Guide pins x8: 34116780506
Rotors: 34116858071KT
Brake Line: 34306858079
There guys.... Phewww! Hope this helps your hunting.
#49
Hey guys,
Fitted the brakes. Coop3r helped me out today. Have a looksie.
Fisrt things first, they fit with NO need to buy an adapter. There holes to fit the caliper to the car are just about 1-2 mm off....nothing that just creating wiggle room on those holes wont solve.
There you go guys. I just have to buy the shields, 15mm sapcers, rotors, brake lines, and pads and I think we're good to go.
Once I get everything together I will post pics for you guys enjoy! And any problems I run to.
Fitted the brakes. Coop3r helped me out today. Have a looksie.
Fisrt things first, they fit with NO need to buy an adapter. There holes to fit the caliper to the car are just about 1-2 mm off....nothing that just creating wiggle room on those holes wont solve.
There you go guys. I just have to buy the shields, 15mm sapcers, rotors, brake lines, and pads and I think we're good to go.
Once I get everything together I will post pics for you guys enjoy! And any problems I run to.
Last edited by Manny_cooper; 10-02-2014 at 03:32 PM.