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I just drove around in fairly heavy rain, splashing through puddles, at speeds up to 60 mph. I pulled into the garage, popped the hood, and took a dry paper towel to the fliter. It was dry as a bone. In fact, the only water on the towel came from water dripping off the opened hood.
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Andy, have you done any acceleration comparisons between the HAI and another intake?
Or what does the butt dyno report.....?
How noisy, (SC whine) ?
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In dry weather, I'll do some runs, then swap the Alta and/or the stock intake back in for more runs. I'll post up change in speed-vs-change in time (acceleration) plots plus a BUNCH of other cool parameters.
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yeah i just got the filter in today. i also installed it.. it really sucked to install it because the filter was partially over the TB. i had to saw off a piece of the OEM intake tubing just so it can have clearance. but now it is a lot better. wish i can show you guys pictures of the piece i cut but dont know how to put pictures up. anyways... throttle response... to me it "feels" the same. my friend says that im trippen. he says first gear picks up a lot faster now. i trust his word on that. but boy oh boy.... the supercharger whine is crazzzzzzyyyyyy. it is REALLY louder. what worries me is that i sorta hear a rice boy sound.. it sounds like a can when i accel. my friend was driving my car and i stood outside to hear it and you can hear the intake "popping"
all in all though i do like this new HAI. i wish i knew how much i gained on it though. ill dyno as soon as i get back from streets of willows this saturday.
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speaking of which, in the installation process, all you have to do is take the airbox and tubing off, and clamp on the air filter, and thats it? what was that oil breather thing and i heard talk of nipples.
i saw the pictures from earlier in the thread, but they didnt show any pics of any nippleage, or where they were placed. i will read again to make sure.
and nam, you had to make cuts into the stock tubing?
did you have to do that, too, andy? (i dont seem to remember that you did, er at least mentioned anyway).
looking forward to your "new and awesome" parameters.
>>In dry weather, I'll do some runs, then swap the Alta and/or the stock intake back in for more runs. I'll post up change in speed-vs-change in time (acceleration) plots plus a BUNCH of other cool parameters.
If you could post the quantum flux numbers that would be great!
I didn't cut anything. It sounds like nammerz left the factory scoop in place. I removed mine.
The deal with the breather hose is it plugs into the stock rubber intake pipe. Since that pipe has been removed, that breather needs to go somewhere. The cleanest and simplest way to go would be to thread an elbow into the back panel of the filter, then attach the hose to it. I opted to attach a cheap breather filter to the hose instead.
dgszweda1,
I will measure the amount of plasma that is boosted in each scenario.
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this cool i am picken up my k&n filter this weekend i will try to see how does this work...for me....
thanks for the great info..can you post pictuers onthe brether tub if you can.
what about steam cleaning engine , do just cover the air filter with a plastic bag, or is there a beter way .
what is next?
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for those who are searching for a cheap source for this filter (i checked out the link andy provided (thanks andy!) and they charged $15 for shipping in the US. GAR!)
i havent purchased yet, as i dont want to remove my factory scoop, or cut anything to make it fit (since i dont want to remove the scoop). i wonder if there are other filters that are shorter that would fit and give the same performance.
>>I had a ducati with a trimmed airbox and exposed panel filter. In a really heavy downpour about a third of the filter would become saturated.
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>>No ill effect.
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>>I remember a shop class teacher in high school squirting (with a spray bottle) water directly in an open carb. I can't for the life of me remember why he was doing this as it's been twenty years, but obviously it won't hurt the engine to ingest a water mist.
That's an old school trick for decarbonizing the spark plugs, piston crowns and valves. It's called chill shocking and was used when an engine continued to run after turning it off, a sure sign that it had carbon build up in the combustion chamber. The hot glowing carbon would continue to light off the fuel without a spark.
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well, i went ahead and ordered the filter from the link i posted. the receipt said as advertised on their site, so we shall see.
anyways, did anyone get any performance numbers yet? i will install it if only for the sound enhancement (if it is good.. otherwise, back to stock i go). what does it sound like in comparison to the alta? i've heard from some people that the alta sounds like it has a blow off valve or something similar. i've also heard it "screams"? so what does our $35 wonder sound like, i wonder wonder.
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BTW, the fastest MINI was also using a HAI. I placed 16th out of 32 entries in class E, so I met my goal for the event. :smile:
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I've been reading this board for a few weeks and I'm really impressed by the courteousness and knowledge of the people here; I'm glad to finally be registered. I've been wondering about this mod; I'm no expert on engines, but if you increase air intake, wouldn't that just make the mixture lean? Does the ECU automagically increase fuel flow to richen the mixture? If so, I would think that's where the extra HP comes from. And if that's the case, do you have to worry about pistons/rods going bad sooner because of the excess energy from combustion? I'm familiar with (much) older (and simpler) cars, and am trying to get up to speed so I can properly modify my '04 MCS. Would someone please enlighten me?
-Cor.
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