You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!
Hey all, I'm still up at VIR. I've spent Thursday and Friday on the track with Alta's tune. I installed Alta's tune last week and though it was initially impressive, I did want to see how it held up at the track.
Here's the scoop....
Jeff sent me 3 different tunes. They were all stage 3 tunes with with the same maps but the throttle/gas pedal settings were different, one was linear, more linear and SUPER linear.
.............
I talked to Jeff before I left the track and he sent me a 4th tune. (the P0490 code was blanked out but the tune was a "special" tune which ran even better powerwise. I don't think the object was to release this to the public quite yet but since I was going to the track, we decided to try it.
.............
So Friday morning I install one of the two new maps. I ran the first session, no problems at all.
...............
Now, the second of the two maps Jeff sent me was one that was tuned down a bit. The HP was approx 240 at the wheels and the torque down to 285'ish. I decided to try it.
Mark
So - Mark - back to the start of this thread (yes, I did edit the above). I am a bit confused. Over the course of 2 days you tried out 6 different Tunes from Alta, of which the last seemed to work the best. A little lower in power/torque, but worth it given that it didn't throw any codes. Hopefully I got that right. Now, if I go today to the Alta web page and buy their tune, which version would you expect I would get?
So - Mark - back to the start of this thread (yes, I did edit the above). I am a bit confused. Over the course of 2 days you tried out 6 different Tunes from Alta, of which the last seemed to work the best. A little lower in power/torque, but worth it given that it didn't throw any codes. Hopefully I got that right. Now, if I go today to the Alta web page and buy their tune, which version would you expect I would get?
I would expect the most potent version is the one you would get.
Here's the deal... It doesn't matter who makes the tune, what works on the street may not work on the track.
Being on the track for hours on end would make a the ECM have the chance throw a code much more so than that same tune on the street.
What works on the street doesn't necc. handle the abuse the track gives... that's why many people run two tunes... one that will ease off the engine for hours at a time.
Mark
__________________
You know you're a racer if...When you refer to everything in life unmodified as "stock" or “factory.” OSCAR’S REBUILD
Ouch, sorry about the hit. 3:20's is moving pretty good. get an idea of grand course lap times I found the car and driver lighting lap. Looks like they managed a 3:22 in a 2007 cooper S. I'm sure they had a pro in it so 3:20's isn't to shabby. http://www.caranddriver.com/features...p_2009-feature
Sorry bud, didn't see your post. I know I could have pulled better times but I need more tire. I'm running the ADvan 048's and I was told several times I'm overdriving the car.
I'll be better prepared next time, my new front sway bar is in, new rear lower adjustable control arms and brand new coilovers are sitting at the shop. By the time I get some better tires, I'll ready.
Mark
__________________
You know you're a racer if...When you refer to everything in life unmodified as "stock" or “factory.” OSCAR’S REBUILD
the stock MINI R56s have something like 5.6 degrees of caster stock i think (don't quote that number but i thought i read it in a euro spec sheet) if you look into most european cars, the caster is high enough that static negative camber isn't necessary to increase handling grip as much as say an asian car would need it... I only run -1.5 front and rear in my setup and for track i actually lower front to -1 so caster does its thing, at full lock it's kinda ridiculous how much negative camber there is...
__________________ JP (the man) & Blue Bomber (the MINI)
LazerBlue R56 2007 What you see is whats installed... after all, with MINIs, "it ain't no 10 second race"... it's about bending the rules and ruling the bends!
the stock MINI R56s have something like 5.6 degrees of caster stock i think (don't quote that number but i thought i read it in a euro spec sheet) if you look into most european cars, the caster is high enough that static negative camber isn't necessary to increase handling grip as much as say an asian car would need it... I only run -1.5 front and rear in my setup and for track i actually lower front to -1 so caster does its thing, at full lock it's kinda ridiculous how much negative camber there is...
According to the sheet my Mini dealer provided me the stock caster is just over 3 degrees. I have -1.6 camber and find that on hard autoX turns I am still rolling over on the sidewalls with 40 psi pressure in the front tires. Also, on the track it still pushes a lot. On the street the setup is fantastic If the numbers you quoted for the Euro specs are correct, that is what I would like to go to. This could be built into the camber plate by just moving it back about 0.5 inch (~1 deg more caster). Other NAM threads say this should be a good thing and the experience is another leap beyond the feel that the camber gives ya
Hey Mark, just heard about your crash. Glad you're unhurt and the MINI's not totaled. Get that MINI up and running again! Might see you at RR in November. Maybe this time with a roll cage? =)
__________________
2006 HB/W MCS w/ Alta CAI, 19mm RSB, M7 STB, V1, xenonmatch, boost, 17" Kazera KZ-B w/ Dunlop Z1 Star Spec 215/45, GRG SS lines, TSW Springs and Camber Plates, H-Sport Rear Control Arms
JP (the man) & Blue Bomber (the MINI)
DrkS/DrkS "S", Anthracite Headliner, LSD.
Laser Blue/White MCS delivered 3/8/07. Off lease 5/17/09.
