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I understand that it would not force all that much air, but enough to feed the tiny turbo of the R56. True, the view from the driver's seat is already like looking through the blinds in your home. I just think that you could have all the best features: Cool air, effect of "ram air stick" by forcing air, cooling vents for turbo, weight reduction, and styling. All this for about the same price as some of the top of the line intakes for the MINI. Just my thoughts. Thank you all for the feedback.
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i'm curious why ppl are so worried about hydro lock?

alot of ppl out there INJECT water into their motors on purpose..

and i've seen ppl stick a vacuume hose into a jug of water and suck it to steam clean the internals of their motor to break up carbon buildup...


unless u got some crazy downpour streaming into.. I don't see how it will pull enough water to damage the motor...
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i'm curious why ppl are so worried about hydro lock?

alot of ppl out there INJECT water into their motors on purpose..

and i've seen ppl stick a vacuume hose into a jug of water and suck it to steam clean the internals of their motor to break up carbon buildup...


unless u got some crazy downpour streaming into.. I don't see how it will pull enough water to damage the motor...

On my stock 2003 Ford Ranger 4.0, I nearly killed it from something similar. roadside puddles were enough one day, while splashing (I'll admit it). The accelerating (ie sucking in air) pulled water across the panel filter and just soaked it and it was totally saturated. The truck ran rough and sputtered etc. I limped it home to make sure I could park it safely since at this point in time I thought the motor had blown. I could floor it and it would sometimes get air, other times bog to under 500rpms.

Turns out the filter got wet, became less strong, then folded into itself and got partially pulled into the intake tube. Obviously it would not fit entirely but the motor was doing all it could to suck air and in turn pulled the filter with it.
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On my stock 2003 Ford Ranger 4.0, I nearly killed it from something similar. roadside puddles were enough one day, while splashing (I'll admit it). The accelerating (ie sucking in air) pulled water across the panel filter and just soaked it and it was totally saturated. The truck ran rough and sputtered etc. I limped it home to make sure I could park it safely since at this point in time I thought the motor had blown. I could floor it and it would sometimes get air, other times bog to under 500rpms.

Turns out the filter got wet, became less strong, then folded into itself and got partially pulled into the intake tube. Obviously it would not fit entirely but the motor was doing all it could to suck air and in turn pulled the filter with it.
WOW! First time I've heard that one.
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Clint.
I am not adverse to manufacturing my own version of your intake to save some money and for the fun of making something.
Is there any reason why getting a filter from silicon intakes (like yours) and welding an elbow to connect to the factory intake pipe would not work as well as yours?
If I had spare cash and a wife who would let me spend it, I would get yours, but I cant see that happening any time soon.
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If you really wanted to do a cheap version of the DoS CAI, I think you could just buy those plastic Spectre straight pipes, and then just shove the whole filter behind the bulkhead, if there's enough room. I've seen people do it on non-S's, I don't see why it would be any different on an S.
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Clint.
I am not adverse to manufacturing my own version of your intake to save some money and for the fun of making something.
Is there any reason why getting a filter from silicon intakes (like yours) and welding an elbow to connect to the factory intake pipe would not work as well as yours?
If I had spare cash and a wife who would let me spend it, I would get yours, but I cant see that happening any time soon.
We built and hacked up a lot of prototypes before we got ours to fit properly and not have a slightly less than desired lean condition in the engine. Now you too can experience the fun of R&D.

I don't think that Silicone intakes has a 2.75" ID version of their filter with splash guard. That's what you're looking for on your R56 MCS.

Even if you find a similar Ebay special that's the right size, remember it's a $15 filter with no velocity stack (so you're going to have turbulent air entering your MAF). Using a potentially sketchy air filter with unknown filtration quality is not a great starting point for a performance project. I think that you're going to get what you pay for if you mod using this particular part.

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If you really wanted to do a cheap version of the DoS CAI, I think you could just buy those plastic Spectre straight pipes, and then just shove the whole filter behind the bulkhead, if there's enough room. I've seen people do it on non-S's, I don't see why it would be any different on an S.
I've seen folks do this on R56 Coopers as well, but I always wonder -- Why would you want to make your air intake path even longer?

Everyone needs to mod based on their allowable budget. If you're planning on doing either of these, do a lot of research, find a quality filter from a reputable brand, and take a lot of measurements. Also plan on getting things slightly wrong on the first (and maybe second ) try. It will save a ton of frustration down the line.

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I'm not going to be doing it

With the amount of money I spent on my car... I'm really anal now about just taking my time and saving up for parts that I know will work well and work the first time.

I still can't decide what my next mods are going to be. I'm either getting an intake and coilovers or an FMIC and an ALTA AP... ahhhh too many choices!
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