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Front mounts intercoolers look sick... a few minis have them, most of them are turbos, don't know what gains would it have on the superchargers... you should search for the grs front mount and webb motorsport prototype, so you can have a template... it is going to be a dificult task but may worth it...
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Also owned a 2006 MCS Space Blue Checkmate.
there are a few supercharged front mount intercoolers out there i hear there isnt much of a gain other than the intercooler looks cool in the front of the car...i think in the beginning when they first started toying with the idea they kept having fitment problems and the setup flexing to much but i dont really rem so dont take my word for it lol...but i know there is a company out there that makes a kit for that now i forget the name tho started with a G its a euro company
I saw one on youtube once, but I can't find it now. The thing was very loud. It had flat pipes coming off of the intercooler horns and bending down over the radiator, behind the bumper. If the engine wasn't on polyurethane or solid mounts, then the intercooler would snap off.
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Original owner since 2002.
Im doing a engine swap to about 30k miles rather then my current 155k, the reason i was looking into front mount is primarily for looks, but also since it would be the least costly option since my uncle would be doing it. the new engine will have header and catback, alta intake going for either a 17 or 19% pulley and new ignition system, cant really go too crazy since im going to school in march
Just be careful in doing the plumbing not to increase the volume on the intercooler system too much. Going with longish plumbs will cause lots of lag. In the above installs you can see lots of care was taken to limit the pipeing used. Going with a r-56 ish styled system would likely cause huge lag IMO.
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Those are some good looking front mounts. Now does anyone sell the adapter to go from the flat piping of the supercharger to round pipe of th intercooler? If not does anyone know how to make one?
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05 MCS Alta 19% Pulley, Megan Headers, One-Ball Exhaust, CM Flywheel, CM FX400, M7 Intake
Future BVH, CP pistons, maybe Alta Turbo kit
Bad idea unless you go turbo... 1) Elevated whine when run with an M45; and, 2) The pressure drop will likely negate benefits until a higher efficiency supercharger is available.
Those are some good looking front mounts. Now does anyone sell the adapter to go from the flat piping of the supercharger to round pipe of th intercooler? If not does anyone know how to make one?
GRS does, I'm not sure if you can buy that piece individually though...
It was me that asked Graham from GRS to create a FMIC having had success with his TMIC.
The idea behind it was to create something to handle track work having seen very high inlet temps in summer on track with the TMIC and I didn't want to go down the water/meth route. We started with an 8.2 litre core then kept modding it to get the boost right and ended up with a 5.8 litre core. This then made 262bhp/214.5 lbs ft on an independant dyno (AMD Essex) and at a track day at Brands Hatch the inlet temp didn't go above 30C with an ambient around 12C if memory serves me right. Since then Graham has modded it further with smaller pipe work to help boost.
Havn't seen any new on the development of Graham's FMIC. DO you know if he will sell a production kit.
My race class rules prohibit the switch to water/air IC. So GRS's TMIC which I have, is the best I can do.
after reading the post and looking at the design. my 2¢.
I suspect it would be economical to make a cnc'd billet fitting passing the charge air directly into the intake, a downward "T" fitting for the CBV. the air could exit up from the FMIC turn 90° back and over the radiator, and then turn 90° Left into the intake fitting.
The Port out the top of the pump is large and perhaps tougher to seal. Coming straight out of the pump goes into the manifold. So Duct would have to route between the radiator and the manifold. This would probably just as much a bottleneck as the Horn.
have to fit a shorter radiator, or use a different pump altogether, or make a silly molded High temp CF manifold. Non of these are economical.
I had a custom front mount made for my 02 mcs it stays cooler but there really is not much other gain. It does look really sick though with a big intercooler in the front.
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2003 MCS, Astro Black, Aerio Kit, Sport, Premium, Harman Kardon, Leather, ALTA 15% SCP, ALTA 0% CP, ALTA CAI, Magnaflow Exhaust System, OBX Header, JCW 380cc, ECU Reflash, JCW Wires, Stop Tech BBK, Black Hamman 18" Rims. Coming Soon: RMW Cam, RMW or Mynes tune.
