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great job... superb testing from an unbiased source. Looks like you had fun doing it too.
just gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is probobly one of the only worthwhile posts on this forum in months. Props to you for bringing this forum out of the gutter and showing that some people here are actual people... not just internet bullies.
You're a funny guy, Nitrominis! Where in any of my posts have I ever talked about theories? I've been one of the most supportive posters on NAM regarding any IAT related issue, and have contributed to them all.
...or maybe you're not referring to me when you mention technical guys?
Not directed at you at all ! If anything you know me I would fall into that category I mentioned. I actually think your contributions are more in line with reality. You are one that I believe never went "hmm" and posted a response to. You are also one that I would love to share some projects with.
These guys did a great job and look forward to seeing what they will do next.
Thanks for all the test results, you guys are great! Really confirms to me what the guys over at RSR motorsport were saying awhile back, that for a top mounted IC the stock is good and the GP is the best after that you really need a water to air or combination to get much of an improvement. Guess the engineers at BMW aren't total idiots after all....
great job... superb testing from an unbiased source. Looks like you had fun doing it too.
just gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is probobly one of the only worthwhile posts on this forum in months. Props to you for bringing this forum out of the gutter and showing that some people here are actual people... not just internet bullies.
Thank you and your welcome! This is what NAM should be about. Finding, Researching and sharing helpful information. Thats why I joined NAM and I'm glad I could help out
If only I could find a way to make a living doing stuff like this
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RMW Head - RMW Shorty Header - RMW Cam - RMW Quiet Catback - 440 injectors - Alta 17% - Alta 22mm Rear Sway - M7 V2 DFIC & Hood Scoop - M7 Coilovers - M7 AE Strut Bar - Voltage CAI - BRISK Racing Plugs - GP LSD - Eibach Control Arms - Custom Graphics - Orciari Cowl Scoops
Great data! Was the M7 Scoop used for the DFIC runs? Why do you think the DFIC had snappier response?
We used the DFIC scoop with the DFIC.
We used the stock scoop for all the other intercoolers
The GRS comes with a diverter for the scoop and a replacement diverter (air catch) that replaces the stock one on the inside of the hood.
As far as why the M7 felt snappier? ... no idea, it just felt more responsive. Could be just a mental thing, after having all five intercoolers on in one day it was something that seemed noticeable.
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RMW Head - RMW Shorty Header - RMW Cam - RMW Quiet Catback - 440 injectors - Alta 17% - Alta 22mm Rear Sway - M7 V2 DFIC & Hood Scoop - M7 Coilovers - M7 AE Strut Bar - Voltage CAI - BRISK Racing Plugs - GP LSD - Eibach Control Arms - Custom Graphics - Orciari Cowl Scoops
years ago Dr O and Don at MTH cam up with the same conclusion with IC's. I think DR O now uses a GP and Don recommends staying with the stock or GP IC for street use.
As far as ICs go, there are lots of better ways to spend your money....
Matt
ps, Intense, now that you have a taste for testing, will you do more, or less, knowing what you know now about what it takes to get real data!
-Alta- This thing got hot and stayed hot. I think there are design flaws that hinder the cooling capability. The front of the intercooler sits so close to the hood scoop there is no direct path for it to flow thru the bottom part of the IC (I have pictures of the fitment on my camera at home I'll post later)
In order to properly install the Alta, you need to grind off the two inner posts for the intercooler brackets. This will lower the intercooler almost half an inch. I hope it didn't damage your hood.
Major kudos for collecting and sharing your results Intense and Roggenmini!
Jeremy
__________________ 2004 Liquid Yellow MCS Sport/Chrome Pkg, 17% Alta SC Pulley, Alta Intake, Alta IC Diverter, Ultrik Cam, CM Flywheel/FX200, OBX ATB Diff, JCW Fuel Injectors and Software, Edge Racing Sport Header with Magnaflow Cat, 1 Ball Exhaust, JCW Plugs, Powerflex Front Subframe Bushings, Powerflex Motor Mount Inserts, Alta Springs, Alta Lower Control Arms, Alta 19mm Rear Sway Bar, Rear Seat Deleted, 17 by 7 O.Z. Ultraleggeras, Auto Meter Boost/Vacuum And Oil Pressure Gauges.
In order to properly install the Alta, you need to grind off the two inner posts for the intercooler brackets. This will lower the intercooler almost half an inch. I hope it didn't damage your hood.
My inner mount points are ground down.
I ground them down when I had Alta's V1 top mount on my car. I'm still a little vexxed as to why they designed their intercoolers to rest right on those mount point. I hated that about my V1 so I ground them off so they wouldn't wear thru.
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RMW Head - RMW Shorty Header - RMW Cam - RMW Quiet Catback - 440 injectors - Alta 17% - Alta 22mm Rear Sway - M7 V2 DFIC & Hood Scoop - M7 Coilovers - M7 AE Strut Bar - Voltage CAI - BRISK Racing Plugs - GP LSD - Eibach Control Arms - Custom Graphics - Orciari Cowl Scoops
See if you can get ahold of the Laminova, and the Gintani
This would in fact be a bad thing.... I might end up wanting ONE!
Seriously tho, I'm really curious about the water to air intercoolers and would love to test them. That would be excellent, but allot more work than the air to airs for sure
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RMW Head - RMW Shorty Header - RMW Cam - RMW Quiet Catback - 440 injectors - Alta 17% - Alta 22mm Rear Sway - M7 V2 DFIC & Hood Scoop - M7 Coilovers - M7 AE Strut Bar - Voltage CAI - BRISK Racing Plugs - GP LSD - Eibach Control Arms - Custom Graphics - Orciari Cowl Scoops
Great job you guys Thanks for being in the spotlight and keeping it impartial and civil . Looks like i'll be keeping my stock I/C until one of you guy's with a GP I/C sells your car
Thanks for the hard work and the data guys! The community does owe you for providing us with some refreshing data and objectivity. I hope that you won't be dissuaded by any naysaying and you'll continue to do neat jobs like this, but that's entirely for selfish reasons . Again, thank you!
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RMW 2.0L with big-valve head (inconel valves, RMW cam), port-matched IM, shorty header, 17% pulley on stock M45, M7 STB, TEIN SS+ w/ EDFC, HSport comp rear sway and lower control arms, XACT flywheel w/ SPEC stg. 3 clutch, PLX R-300, old RMW tune (need a new one ;-)) Older. Wiser. Making amends.
and your not even using the latest version (extra diverter) and there maybe an even newer version on its way.
2004 Liquid Yellow MCS Sport/Chrome Pkg, 17% Alta SC Pulley, Alta Intake, Alta IC Diverter, Ultrik Cam, CM Flywheel/FX200, OBX ATB Diff, JCW Fuel Injectors and Software, Edge Racing Sport Header with Magnaflow Cat, 1 Ball Exhaust, JCW Plugs, Powerflex Front Subframe Bushings, Powerflex Motor Mount Inserts, Alta Springs, Alta Lower Control Arms, Alta 19mm Rear Sway Bar, Rear Seat Deleted, 17 by 7 O.Z. Ultraleggeras, Auto Meter Boost/Vacuum And Oil Pressure Gauges.
