MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring

jeffc · #1 04-22-2007, 06:03 AM

A couple months back I purchased Slick and Hydro and got my first opportunity to use them.

My question is when would I use Slick as compared to Hydro. Should I only use Hydro after a wash and while wet?

I tried a small section with Hydro and Slick and found the Hydro to be easier to work with and a little better shine (Both looked great).

PS The car looks amazing.

**BlimeyCabrio** · #2 04-22-2007, 06:24 AM

You can use Hydro wet or dry. Keep in mind that it's very concentrated for wet use (so the rinse water remaining on the car dilutes it) - so use it sparingly when dry, and only on a CLEAN car.

Slick has more lifting properties to remove dust, bugs, etc. as a quick detailer. Hydro has longer lasting shine and more sealing properties than Slick.

I use Slick as my daily (or every couple of days) QD, and use Hydro as part of the dry cycle after every wash. That works well for me and keeps my Epic shine and protection lasting a long, long time. But others use Hydro dry as a QD with good results - just don't expect it to lift dust and stuff as well as Slick can.

**Detailers Paradise** · #3 04-22-2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio

You can use Hydro wet or dry. Keep in mind that it's very concentrated for wet use (so the rinse water remaining on the car dilutes it) - so use it sparingly when dry, and only on a CLEAN car.

Slick has more lifting properties to remove dust, bugs, etc. as a quick detailer. Hydro has longer lasting shine and more sealing properties than Slick.

I use Slick as my daily (or every couple of days) QD, and use Hydro as part of the dry cycle after every wash. That works well for me and keeps my Epic shine and protection lasting a long, long time. But others use Hydro dry as a QD with good results - just don't expect it to lift dust and stuff as well as Slick can.

Perfect description BlimeyC! I couldn't have said it better myself.

-Heather

**BlimeyCabrio** · #4 04-22-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Detailers Paradise

Perfect description BlimeyC! I couldn't have said it better myself.

-Heather

I had a good teacher. Actually I just hit "play" on the part of my brain that recorded this when you last said it... I have no idea whether any of that is true or not - but that's what Heather said...

JK...

jeffc · #5 04-22-2007, 06:29 AM

Makes sense now. Thanks..

kenchan · #6 04-22-2007, 07:38 AM

i agree with blimey. you can't really replace one for the other as each
has its own strengths. from my experiment, i can confirm that slick
has much better lifting capabilities than hydro.

for my daily driven cars i don't use QD, so i will continue to get hydro
until Refresh is released.

(Refresh is kenchan's imaginary name for the next gen slick with less shine)

mcdbrendan · #7 04-22-2007, 01:12 PM

Oh I can't wait until "Refresh". That's going to be so cool. I hope it has less shine, but more depth... is an easy to use Carnuba spray possible???

bamatt · #8 04-23-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdbrendan

... is an easy to use Carnuba spray possible???

I have already sent in that request to the R&D Department

Let's see if Ken has already named his new product I think I shall name my yet to be released version of Hydro for carnauba

Hydronauba

What'cha think Heather

jeffc · #9 04-22-2007, 05:04 PM

What is "Refresh"?

kenchan · #10 04-22-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffc

What is "Refresh"?

it's the official

name for the next gen Slick which has super lifting
capabilities like Slick but less shine.

its to 'refresh' the paint to the clean polymer finish you had
before motoring.

ImagoX · #11 04-23-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

it's the official

name for the next gen Slick which has super lifting
capabilities like Slick but less shine.

Why would you want LESS shine? That would be like "Ice cream but not cold" or "Cap'n Crunch without ripping up the inside of your mouth". Some things just should not be tampered with.

kenchan · #12 04-23-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ImagoX

Why would you want LESS shine? That would be like "Ice cream but not cold" or "Cap'n Crunch without ripping up the inside of your mouth". Some things just should not be tampered with.

why would you want MORE shine? that would be like "Ice cream but with
more sugar coating" or "Cap'n Crunch with sugar cubes in your mouth."

Somethings like a freshly waxed paint finish should not be tampered with.

Sissy · #13 04-23-2007, 02:13 PM

Well, bless my soul.....

I want to see my reflection in the paint. Is that "shine" or depth?

kenchan · #14 04-23-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sissy

Well, bless my soul.....

I want to see my reflection in the paint. Is that "shine" or depth?

i welcome depth and rich reflection.

shiny (surface shiny

) i can care less.

jeffc · #15 04-22-2007, 08:30 PM

Sweet...

**Detailers Paradise** · #16 04-23-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

it's the official

name for the next gen Slick which has super lifting
capabilities like Slick but less shine.

its to 'refresh' the paint to the clean polymer finish you had
before motoring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffc

Sweet...

I should add that Refresh is currently a figment of Ken's imagination.

However, we do hope to develop something like this some day soon.

We're also trying to hire Ken to be part of our official product develpment team.

-Heather

Benja0901 · #17 04-23-2007, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detailers Paradise

I should add that Refresh is currently a figment of Ken's imagination.

However, we do hope to develop something like this some day soon.

We're also trying to hire Ken to be part of our official product develpment team.

-Heather

"It's all in your head..." chicken run parallels

BTW Heather, if this means free product, you can count me in

mcdbrendan · #18 04-23-2007, 02:34 PM

Depth > Shine. Shine is cool for some lighter cars, but for dark, its all about the depth.

kenchan · #19 04-23-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdbrendan

Depth > Shine. Shine is cool for some lighter cars, but for dark, its all about the depth.

yep, that's where Hydro/Epic does very well.

on cars where carnauba was doing almost nothing as far as reflection,
Hydro/Epic brought depth and a nice wet gloss. imho you dont want
to tamper with that rich color.

its like fiddling around with your EQ on your stereo. say "shine" is
your sound's higher frequencies (treble), when you add too much treble
you loose the overall thickness/richness of the sound.

same thing with paint. you make your car shiny you loose the depth.

mcdbrendan · #20 04-23-2007, 02:44 PM

Wow, thats a really good analogy. Especially when some people like really bright treble, while other like smooth treble.

kenchan · #21 04-23-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdbrendan

Wow, thats a really good analogy. Especially when some people like really bright treble, while other like smooth treble.

yah, MBQuart speakers is like natural wax and epic/hydro. natural, deep, refined.

where as Infinity speakers are like Zaino and slick. boosted for brilliance.

.... well, kinda.

**BlimeyCabrio** · #22 04-23-2007, 03:01 PM

of course, with cool blue metallic, I'm not really sure whether "deep" or "slick" is better (or in fact if there is much difference). But maybe I'm just a moron. OK, you caught me. I AM a moron. But I don't know if that means I'm clueless in this case or not?

bamatt · #23 04-23-2007, 03:10 PM

I think on a lighter color metallic finish you go for shine as you really won't achieve depth. Just my worthless 2¢

kenchan · #24 04-23-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio

of course, with cool blue metallic, I'm not really sure whether "deep" or "slick" is better (or in fact if there is much difference). But maybe I'm just a moron. OK, you caught me. I AM a moron. But I don't know if that means I'm clueless in this case or not?

your car has the same issues with natural wax as it does with my
blue civic. bascially a color that hides dust. i use Hydro for the depth
and wetness.

mcdbrendan · #25 04-23-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, MBQuart speakers is like natural wax and epic/hydro. natural, deep, refined.

where as Infinity speakers are like Zaino and slick. boosted for brilliance.

.... well, kinda.

MMMM MBQuart. I love MB. But Polk is coming in a close second. Just put the Polk/Momo MMC5250 in the Jeep and all I can say is wow. Everything blends so well.