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"Zaino Z-CS Clear Seal was quite fundamental - an advanced total synthetic polymer protectant that is simply wiped on, and that's it! Yes, achieve Zaino award winning gloss and protective durability in ONE simple wipe on step. Wipe on, and walk away, you're done. No buffing. No final wipe down. Simplicity at it's best. Just apply & let dry."
"Zaino Z-AIO ALL-IN-ONE. Z-AIO simplifies the task of painted surface maintenance. Z-AIO's versatility on all paint types make it your one source, goto polish. Whether on your car, truck, motorcycle, or boat, Z-AIO can be your true SINGLE polish & protectant product.
With an emulsifying cleaner and very mild abrasive, Z-AIO gently cleans and protects while effectively enhancing light refraction and reflectivity for remarkable results. The advanced polymeric substructures within Z-AIO produces optically perfect layers to all paint types, yet also provides excellent adhesion and detergent resistance, resulting in a strong and glossy layer of polymer based synthetic protection."
It sounds to me that Zaino is aiming these at those who do not want to go through the whole multistep zaino process. I would also assume they are not as high quality or durable as the other products. Of course they say they can be used together, but they are really starting to blur the lines.
I was wondering about the Z-CS. They make it sound (Information) as if it is more durable than the Z-2. But how would you get it smooth if you don't wipe it off? It is intriguing though.
Josh, when are you going to give out some hints about your wax test?
Hah looks like another thread was posted simultaneously (jinx!)
My real wax test won't come till the spring, and will be done in front of an audience (witnesses if you wish) during a detailing gathering for minis that is in the planning. But temps need to get above the teens first! For now I just took the expected top 3 products and applied them to my door to see how they stand up to winter road grime as I won't be able to do that in the spring.
what three products are you testing?...I'm guessing Z-2, Klasse twins, Epic? Will you be assessing somehow longevity of slickness in your testing?
The Z-AIO and Z-CS really does blur and confuse the choices.....I'm not sure if it will save steps or add to them......so the full Z treatment will be:
I just googled both of those products, 3 pages worth each, and the only entries are from the Zaino company....I guess they are too new for any of the forums to have posted opinions
I received my Zaino CS sealant the other day, and applied it to the back half of my GP (which is already coated with Z2). It sits outside, so I'm interested to see how this will increase the durability. I'll keep everyone posted.
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2012 JCW Coupe
2011 Lotus Exige S260
I received my Zaino CS sealant the other day, and applied it to the back half of my GP (which is already coated with Z2). It sits outside, so I'm interested to see how this will increase the durability. I'll keep everyone posted.
Can you comment on how smooth it is? I was wondering if it is just a wipe on and no buff, how do you make sure it is smooth? Even putting Z-2 on as thin as possible you know you get some ridges and unevenness but it doesn't matter because you buff it off. The CS you don't buff so it would seem your stuck with however smooth you can get it on. Am I missing something here?
Can you comment on how smooth it is? I was wondering if it is just a wipe on and no buff, how do you make sure it is smooth? Even putting Z-2 on as thin as possible you know you get some ridges and unevenness but it doesn't matter because you buff it off. The CS you don't buff so it would seem your stuck with however smooth you can get it on. Am I missing something here?
The CS Sealant is a completely clear liquid (it almost smells and looks like rubbing alcohol, however the bottle specifically states that it does not contain any alcohol), and you simply wipe it on over the existing Zaino product you are using (it is also compatible with other waxes and polishes it states). I was skeptical about it streaking or smearing, but after a few minutes of drying time, it completely disappeared.
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2012 JCW Coupe
2011 Lotus Exige S260
The temps are supposed to get warmer here next week, so I'll give the Z-CS a try. If I have time I'll do the whole ball of wax treatment. Z-AIO, Z-2, Z-CS.
I received my Zaino CS sealant the other day, and applied it to the back half of my GP (which is already coated with Z2). It sits outside, so I'm interested to see how this will increase the durability. I'll keep everyone posted.
Does the CS change the look and/or feel?
We're supposed to be getting some from Sal but we haven't seen it yet. In the meantime, I love hearing from you who have tried it! Thanks!
It does seem a little slicker, however just having applied a fresh coat of Z2, it's hard to tell exactly. I'm most interested in the durability due to my MINI sitting outside 24/7. I thought it might extend my polishing/cleaning/waxing sessions a little longer....
Cheers,
-Justyn
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2011 Lotus Exige S260
It does seem a little slicker, however just having applied a fresh coat of Z2, it's hard to tell exactly. I'm most interested in the durability due to my MINI sitting outside 24/7. I thought it might extend my polishing/cleaning/waxing sessions a little longer....
I wonder if the Z-AIO can be put on with the PC as a prep for Z-2 just like Amigo can be applied by PC as prep for epic...anyone know the recommendation?
I wonder if the Z-AIO can be put on with the PC as a prep for Z-2 just like Amigo can be applied by PC as prep for epic...anyone know the recommendation?
Yes it can, I just read the directions. It was developed to be applied by hand though.
I will be calling Sal when the weather warms up and ask if this following plan makes sense: any comments?
clay
Z-PC.........with the white Lake Country pad by PC
Z-PC.........with the black Lake Country pad by PC
Z-AIO........with a clean black Lake Country pad by PC
Z-5...........by hand or maybe by PC
Z-2, Z-2....by hand
I will be calling Sal when the weather warms up and ask if this following plan makes sense: any comments?
clay
Z-PC.........with the white Lake Country pad by PC
Z-PC.........with the black Lake Country pad by PC
Z-AIO........with a clean black Lake Country pad by PC
Z-5...........by hand or maybe by PC
Z-2, Z-2....by hand
I would adjust this slightly, IMO. The black pad is so soft that I think it would be a wasted step to pair it with an abrasive like the Z-PC. Also, I'd say the black pad would work fine with the Z-AIO, but you'd get much more out of the AIO with the white pad. The white pad is still moderately soft overall, just not as super-soft as the black.
The black pad is really just an application pad and thus should usually be paired only with waxes and like-products. The Z-PC is abrasive and the Z-AIO has some good cleansers in it. Both would give you much better results with a pad that has a little more behind it than the black pad.
Here's what I'd suggest:
Clay
Z-PC.........with the white Lake Country pad by PC*
Z-AIO........with a clean white Lake Country pad by PC then the rest as you already have it
*Although I would start with the white pad and the Z-PC, depending on the condition of your paint and how it responds to the white/Z-PC combo, you may find that you need to bump it up to the orange pad and the Z-PC. If that's the case, you may need to go back to the white pad after using the orange to finish it out. The white/Z-PC may be enough by itself, but you won't know until you give it a whirl. Just something to keep in mind.
thanks Heather!!! I ordered one white pad and 2 black pads last month...looks like I will soon be ordering another white and maybe the orange.....how many monster fluffies do you reckon it will take to wipe off one coat of a polish (Z-PC) one coat of paint cleaner/prep (AIO) and then 2 coats of synthetic sealant.....I have 4 monster fluffies now plus several lesser MF's
Well I gave the Z-CS a try today. It went on pretty easy, and you sure don't use much, but I had a strong desire to buff it. But I did what the directions said and just left it to do it's own thing, which was slow as it was barely 60F here when I did it.
I washed the car this morning, then used some QD to clean up a few spots, so the car was clean when I started. The applicator I used for the Z-CS was filthy by the time I was done. This stuff has a chemical odor, and is kind of oily to the touch. So whatever is in it cleans as you apply it. Not sure what to make of that, but I rubbed it on with a real light touch.
I did not do the whole car, just the bonnet, sides, hatch, and 1/2 the roof. I left the bumpers, as they need some extra work first.
Once it had gone clear, it is hazy for a few minutes, the paint looked good, and felt real slick. I will see how it compares with the areas I did not do once it has really cured.
These photos don't really show before and after very well as it clouded over by the time I was done.
Before
After
Before
After
I'll report back after it has some time to really"cure", and what the difference is to the areas without.
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