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Been doing the Prima stuff since I got Augie and been real happy with the results. But do want to check out other stuff just to say I did.
I seem to recall something in these forums about using Griot's Best of Show wax in conjunction with other products because Best of Show is Carnuba Wax and not synthetic.
Is it as simple as taking 50/50 distilled water and iso alchohol to any surface that has/had synthetic waxes?
I also recall no conflict with using Swirl or Amigo before a carnuba based or synthetic wax. Correct?
Thanks
__________________ Tim Shackelford & 'Augie'
07' MCS Chili Red with lotsa mods and more on the way......
The only issue you have to worry about when using a carnauba wax is that most other products/chemicals cannot bond well to it (due primarily to the oils that are necessary in carnauba waxes). However, carnauba wax does typically bond well to most other products/chemicals.
In other words, you can almost always put a carnauba wax over another product but you cannot put most other products over a carnauba. The carnauba has to be your last step in most cases. (exceptions would be carnauba-based or carnauba-friendly quick detail sprays or spray waxes, like Hydro)
So, you do not have to remove your synthetic wax prior to applying your carnauba wax. In fact, it is common practice among carnauba wax users to intentionally apply a synthetic wax first (for the more durable protection) and then apply a carnauba wax on top (for the unique carnauba look). It's a great pairing!
If you do want to remove a synthetic wax for whatever reason, then, yes, wiping clean paint down with a mix of water and rubbing alcohol will remove it. It's a little time consuming but very easy.
Finally, that is correct: you can use Swirl and/or Amigo before applying a synthetic wax and/or a carnauba wax with no compatibility issues.
Don't know if I am chasing the unattainable but always looking for more depth of color, shine, etc, etc. The durability of Epic with a Carnuba Wax sounds like a awesome combo
__________________ Tim Shackelford & 'Augie'
07' MCS Chili Red with lotsa mods and more on the way......
Don't know if I am chasing the unattainable but always looking for more depth of color, shine, etc, etc. The durability of Epic with a Carnuba Wax sounds like a awesome combo
i use Griot's on my hobby cars. and Best of Show is exactly wat i use.
it's got a very warm glow and depth. i use PrimaAmigo before the wax app so yes, it's fine.
im also going to try their deodorant stick next season.
you can use alcohol to remove the sealant or use the paintprep griot's sells. thing works very well.
Have 2 bottles and just put another coat on Augie last weekend. Lookin good! Great Stuff!
As I said, wanted to try something else.
My thought is the Griot's/Carnuba might have a little more ability to fill the small swirls that I am missing with Swirl. Might be using too much Swirl instead of using less Swirl with more rounds with the PC like we talked about.
__________________ Tim Shackelford & 'Augie'
07' MCS Chili Red with lotsa mods and more on the way......
The only issue you have to worry about when using a carnauba wax is that most other products/chemicals cannot bond well to it (due primarily to the oils that are necessary in carnauba waxes). However, carnauba wax does typically bond well to most other products/chemicals.
In other words, you can almost always put a carnauba wax over another product but you cannot put most other products over a carnauba. The carnauba has to be your last step in most cases. (exceptions would be carnauba-based or carnauba-friendly quick detail sprays or spray waxes, like Hydro)
So, you do not have to remove your synthetic wax prior to applying your carnauba wax. In fact, it is common practice among carnauba wax users to intentionally apply a synthetic wax first (for the more durable protection) and then apply a carnauba wax on top (for the unique carnauba look). It's a great pairing!
If you do want to remove a synthetic wax for whatever reason, then, yes, wiping clean paint down with a mix of water and rubbing alcohol will remove it. It's a little time consuming but very easy.
Finally, that is correct: you can use Swirl and/or Amigo before applying a synthetic wax and/or a carnauba wax with no compatibility issues.
Have fun experimenting! It's part of the fun.
-Heather
Wow Heather! All I can say is "Damn!"
Took the wifes new MCS and clayed, spot Swirl'd on a couple spots, Amigo'd with the PC, coat of Epic and topped off with the Best of Show. Looks incredible!
I have some pic's but they really don't do it justice.
I had just done mine with Banana Gloss as the last coat and I really do like the Griot's. Thats for me mind you.
If anything I've got out of this MINI journey is everybody has a opinion about what makes a MINI look best.
Using the Griot's seems to bridge between the 'shine' only IMHO of Zaino and the depth of color that you get from the Prima products.
On top of all that I really appreciate you offering a suggestion on how to use someone else's stuff with yours. Again proves the class act you and Nick are!
__________________ Tim Shackelford & 'Augie'
07' MCS Chili Red with lotsa mods and more on the way......
Hahaha, yah. but there are a lot of folks using Griot's stuff that lurk here that don't post, so I don't think we are at a minority at all. 95% of my detailing gear is Griot's.
BofS did have a couple spots that did not come off with a PC polishing pad. Little elbow grease with a MF towel and it was magnificent
It does caution to use on a cool surface. I think in the summer I'd do a section such as the roof and the hood, polish/remove, and then do down the sides and boot. Depends on humidity of course.
But kenchen hit it on the head, it don't take much
__________________ Tim Shackelford & 'Augie'
07' MCS Chili Red with lotsa mods and more on the way......
You can always use SprayOn Wax or SpeedShine, or even distilled water to remove BofS if you used too much.
I like doing BofS a section at a time as if I'm polishing. Put some on the red pad and just work it into the paint real nicely until its almost dry. Lately I don't use my RO when applying BofS and just do it by hand.
Then wipe off, move to the next panel. At the very end, I use SprayOn Wax and do the entire car as LSP. Works fantasticly.
SprayOn Wax is great for cleaning too. Pretty much takes away all grime from the kick up areas on the panels, front bumpers, sidemirrors, and leaves behind a super slick surface.
1. If you are having trouble removing BoS, it is most likely that you have used too much. You need only a very light coating of it. When it is ready to remove, you should almost be able to see your reflection in the haze.
2. When I use Griot's Best of Show wax, I keep a spray bottle of water beside me. A very (very) light spritz on the paint makes removing it extremely easy with a microfiber towel.
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2006 Cooper S "Checkmate" with factory JCW (His)
2005 Cooper S (Hers)
i use PrimaAmigo before the wax app so yes, it's fine.
but there are a lot of folks using Griot's stuff that lurk here that don't post, so I don't think we are at a minority at all. 95% of my detailing gear is Griot's. 
