Zaino Products

[weaverpsu]

Im a little confused about their products. Will their polish protect like a wax would? These products seem to be aimed at show car looks not so much everyday protection. Your thoughts please.

[dominicminicoopers]

Here's my thoughts.

Zaino has UV protection.

Zaino is a polish, yes, but the coats you add, actually protects the clearcoat from direct contact of nasty stuff. I gues there'll always be something that can eat thru the layers of polish, but that would be true of many things. I know when I put the stuff on my car, the car doesn't get dirty as quick as when I used to use a carnuba wax. So there's some dust repellant properties it has that is not found in the carnuba wax I had used before switching to Zaino.

Just my 2p

[fins4284]

>>Here's my thoughts.
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>>Zaino has UV protection.
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>>Zaino is a polish, yes, but the coats you add, actually protects the clearcoat from direct contact of nasty stuff. I gues there'll always be something that can eat thru the layers of polish, but that would be true of many things. I know when I put the stuff on my car, the car doesn't get dirty as quick as when I used to use a carnuba wax. So there's some dust repellant properties it has that is not found in the carnuba wax I had used before switching to Zaino.
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>>Just my 2p
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DITTO. Plus it smells goood

[Brother]

>>>>Here's my thoughts.
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>>>>Zaino has UV protection.
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>>>>Zaino is a polish, yes, but the coats you add, actually protects the clearcoat from direct contact of nasty stuff. I gues there'll always be something that can eat thru the layers of polish, but that would be true of many things. I know when I put the stuff on my car, the car doesn't get dirty as quick as when I used to use a carnuba wax. So there's some dust repellant properties it has that is not found in the carnuba wax I had used before switching to Zaino.
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>>>>Just my 2p
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>>DITTO. Plus it smells goood


Ditto for me as well. I would rate it as the best polish I have ever used

[pooky13]

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>>Ditto for me as well. I would rate it as the best polish I have ever used

[Blue Brummie]

Sounds like many happy Zaino product users, but I'd like to reask the original question. Will this stuff protect the car like a high quality wax, or just make it look good ? Would you recommend a combination of wax and polish ??

Spike

[Jerseygirl]

>>Sounds like many happy Zaino product users, but I'd like to reask the original question. Will this stuff protect the car like a high quality wax, or just make it look good ? Would you recommend a combination of wax and polish ??

I'd like to know this as well. Dumb girl question here, but I was always under the impression that polish is meant to "clean" your paint and as such it is slightly abrasive. If it's abrasive wouldn't you eventually wear down your paint if you were using it that often???

I don't know anything about Zaino so maybe what they call a polish is more what I'd consider a wax?

OK, end of dumb girl questions.

[Casey]

zaino isn't really a polish or a wax - it isn't a cleaning polish like what most of us think of when you talk polishes for your car and it isn't a wax since...well it doesn't have any wax in it - it is all sythetic - but it closer to a wax then a cleaner polish...it will protect your car as good or better then any wax out there will and it lasts 4-10 times as long...waxes don't really protect all that well over any length of time...the longest I would leave any normal wax on my car is 1 month before putting more on it. Zaino on the other hand i would only do 2 times a year, you can go a full year, but i prefer to do it more often.

some people like myself do use a carnuaba as well like p21s as a topper, but it isn't for any protection reasons, it just helps to add more depth to the paint were as zaino strength is gloss and shine.

[Jerseygirl]

Thanks for the explanation. I've been a Griot's Garage fan for quite a few years now.

Are you saying I could use Zaino over my Best of Show wax to help protect it more and give the finish more depth???

[gosharks]

Zaino, which is synthetic, is the longest lasting protection out there. There is a study called the "Guru Report" where they study many different car products, included waxes. Zaino ranked number 1 for protection and shine. Also in this report they rank the synthetics versus carnuba (and an entire section on what "carnuba" products consist of. The P21S also ranked very high for optical clarity, but nothing outlasted Zaino in their tests. Most carnuba products stopped protecting the paint after about 6 weeks! Zaino will last about 9 months with just one appication (I usually layer the Z2 product 3x). This report is really an eye opener. Check out Zaino's website for more information, and/or drop Sal Zaino an email. Sal usually responds to questions the same day, if not the same hour. IMHO, a really great product and customer service!

[pwilk20]

To my suprise Zaino did not protect the paint on my EB MCS from bird droppings. I had 4 coats of Zaino ZX-2 on the car, the bird crap burned right through the zaino and my clearcote. The spots were discolored, turned from electric blue to ammonia yellow and it left micro cracks in my clearcote :evil: :evil: .

Paul.

[Jerseygirl]

>>To my suprise Zaino did not protect the paint on my EB MCS from bird droppings. I had 4 coats of Zaino ZX-2 on the car, the bird crap burned right through the zaino and my clearcote. The spots were discolored, turned from electric blue to ammonia yellow and it left micro cracks in my clearcote :evil: :evil: .

Eeek! How long did the stuff sit on your car? I hope you're going to say it was a few days for all that damage.

Sorry to hear that.

[Casey]

JerseyGirl - no - do not put zaino over anything...zaino must be the first thing on the car - but you could put the griots over the zaino..but zaino won't bond to a wax so it has to be the first thing on your car.

pwilk - how long did it bird droppings sit on your car? How many coats of zaino? Was zaino the first thing on the car or did you have carnuaba under it? Did you clay your car? How long had the zaino been on your car? Is your car garaged or parked on the street? Does it sit in the blaring sun all day everyday? Just trying to get an idea going for what caused the damage - as if it was out in the sun all day everyday with the bird droppings on it for a week - no wax will protect it.

gosharks - I ditto the comment on guru reports - a great mag and we worth the money it cost to get.

[pwilk20]

>>pwilk - how long did it bird droppings sit on your car? How many coats of zaino? Was zaino the first thing on the car or did you have carnuaba under it? Did you clay your car? How long had the zaino been on your car? Is your car garaged or parked on the street? Does it sit in the blaring sun all day everyday? Just trying to get an idea going for what caused the damage - as if it was out in the sun all day everyday with the bird droppings on it for a week - no wax will protect it.

OK the full story. My car is 10 months old, this is my weekend car I only have 1440 miles since Dec 02. The car is garaged and sees no rain or snow, I care for this vehicle more than for my own health. From doing research on the net, I concluded that zaino is the best product out there. So I washed the car several times with Dawn to strip the dealer wax. Then I applied 2 coats of z2, following week I added 2 more coats. It was a bueatiful sunny day, I parked her in the driveway, a COUPLE of hours later I noticed bird crap on my hood and roof. Right away I hosed it off, had a tough time taking it off since it baked on pretty good. Well, what remained where yellowish stains and micro-cracks. It absolutley broke my heart
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Since then I NEVER leave my car in the driveway or under any trees.

Paul.

[jdw5155]

Sorry for the hijack but I love your colored dash Jerseygirl. Very cool.

Jim

[boognish]

pwilk20,

Have you tried to remove the yellow stain (of course the "microcracks" can't be removed)... with any product?

Try some bug and tar remover, or 3M Swirl Mark Remover... it did wonders on my MINI to remove stubborn water spots and shadowing caused by magnetic stripes. Unless, of course, you are positive that the bird droppings actually ate through all the layers of paint, including the clearcoat. Then you may require a repaint. I don't know how easy it is for a body shop to match electric blue paint (mine is Jet Black). However, I went to a professional body shop, and they said around $250 for a complete new paint job on the bonnet only (including the requisite clear coats over the base coats).

If the stains/cracks are bothering you so much (I know they'd certainly bother me!), you should consider a re-paint. Since your car is garaged and rarely driven (1,440 miles in a year!), I doubt there's much fading to the original paint at this time. A professional body shop should be able to do a perfectly matched paint job on your bonnet and hood. It's an option you could explore...

Good luck,

Joe

[pwilk20]

>>Have you tried to remove the yellow stain (of course the "microcracks" can't be removed)... with any product?
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>>Try some bug and tar remover, or 3M Swirl Mark Remover... it did wonders on my MINI to remove stubborn water spots and shadowing caused by magnetic stripes. Unless, of course, you are positive that the bird droppings actually ate through all the layers of paint, including the clearcoat. Then you may require a repaint. I don't know how easy it is for a body shop to match electric blue paint (mine is Jet Black). However, I went to a professional body shop, and they said around $250 for a complete new paint job on the bonnet only (including the requisite clear coats over the base coats).
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>>If the stains/cracks are bothering you so much (I know they'd certainly bother me!), you should consider a re-paint. Since your car is garaged and rarely driven (1,440 miles in a year!), I doubt there's much fading to the original paint at this time. A professional body shop should be able to do a perfectly matched paint job on your bonnet and hood. It's an option you could explore...
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>>Good luck,
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>>Joe
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Honestly, It`s been a couple of months since I got the stains, I`m ok with it now.
I just want to warn people that Zaino is not a "magic" coat. Next weekend I`ll try to take some pictures and post them here.

Paul.

[Casey]

I am assuming that you didn't clay your car....if your dealer wax is sythetic(though i'm pretty sure the dealers use a carnauba wax) the dawn wash won't remove it - you must clay - even normal wax isn't always completely removed without claying the car, this is the only way to be 100% sure that everything is off and thus the zaino will bond better with it.

I would suggest taking some clay to the stain and see if that removes it - i find it hard to believe that the bird dropping after only a couple hours stained your, I have had a ton of bird droppings hit my car and be on it for up to a day and zero staining, this was both on a dark silver and jet black MINIs. Also I live in the texas heat and my car is parked outside all the time with very little shade so it gets backed on as good as anywhere. Is there any chance you may have missed a spot and that the bird just happened to hit that area?

Sorry to hear of your bad luck, I'll make sure to watch the bird droppings ever so more closely from now on.

[pwilk20]

>>I am assuming that you didn't clay your car....if your dealer wax is sythetic(though i'm pretty sure the dealers use a carnauba wax) the dawn wash won't remove it - you must clay - even normal wax isn't always completely removed without claying the car, this is the only way to be 100% sure that everything is off and thus the zaino will bond better with it.
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>>I would suggest taking some clay to the stain and see if that removes it - i find it hard to believe that the bird dropping after only a couple hours stained your, I have had a ton of bird droppings hit my car and be on it for up to a day and zero staining, this was both on a dark silver and jet black MINIs. Also I live in the texas heat and my car is parked outside all the time with very little shade so it gets backed on as good as anywhere. Is there any chance you may have missed a spot and that the bird just happened to hit that area?
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>>Sorry to hear of your bad luck, I'll make sure to watch the bird droppings ever so more closely from now on.


I did not clay the car, just washed it really good till it squeaked under the fingers. Car had 4 coats of Z2 when birds attacked it. Similar thing happened back in 1997 to my parents then new Nissan Maxima. We took that car back to the dealer complaining of the cars poor paint quality. Well, they refused to respray the car because it was an environmental issue and not a defect. The Nissan did not have Zaino, but maybe one coat of Carnauba wax. That crap burned right into the paint leaving the same micro-cracks. The only difference was that it did not stain the paint, probably because the Max was a dark colored car.

I do continue to use Zaino, it is easy to work with and gives the car a nice depth/shine. I have it up to 6 coats now, and still stay away from trees :smile: .

Paul.