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BTW-

I would especially encourage those of you out there who love carnauba to help us test Banana Gas...

although there isn't enough carnauba in Banana Gas to give it a full carnauba look, we're hoping that it will be a nice happy-medium for those looking for the carnauba look but with more durability. We'd love to hear what you think.

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I would especially encourage those of you out there who love carnauba to help us test Banana Gas...

although there isn't enough carnauba in Banana Gas to give it a full carnauba look, we're hoping that it will be a nice happy-medium for those looking for the carnauba look but with more durability. We'd love to hear what you think.

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Old 11-15-2007, 06:34 PM
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+1. I literally JUST did the full detail a week ago, and I heart Epic muchly. I'm going to hold off and see how it goes.
im going to be deciding on my next polymer soon, so this comes in at
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I e-mailed. I'll try some on some of my maintenance cars then monitor durability. I have to admit, most products that can be applied to trim or in the sun tend to have poor durability in my experience; but I will definitely give it a fair shake.
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Could be that ease of application will off-set durability as you can do it often.

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Could be that ease of application will off-set durability as you can do it often.

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That's certainly true. It'd be nice to come across a sun friendly/easy to apply sealant that lasts though. Maybe this is it.

I was thinking more last night and was wondering if Heather could perhaps go into some of the differences when comparing this to say, Poorboys EX w/carnauba. The reason I mention that one specifically is the description is very similar to Banana Gas. They're both polymers with real carnauba, they both go on in the sun, dry fast, and are safe for trim, and they both smell like banana. :D The only real downside with EX is the durability is lacking.
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Prima already offers that.

it's called HYDRO.
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Hydro is pretty rad; but I wouldn't classify it as "long lasting".
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Hydro is pretty rad; but I wouldn't classify it as "long lasting".
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Zaino Clear-Seal is very easy on, no wipe off(sort of). But I only use it as a top finish. I use it like you would use use Megs NXT booster wax, in between major waxing/sealant.

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Hydro is pretty rad; but I wouldn't classify it as "long lasting".
I don't think it is meant to be long lasting, great stuff though, kind of like a QD on steroids.

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BTW-

I would especially encourage those of you out there who love carnauba to help us test Banana Gas...

although there isn't enough carnauba in Banana Gas to give it a full carnauba look, we're hoping that it will be a nice happy-medium for those looking for the carnauba look but with more durability. We'd love to hear what you think.

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I sent my email. I am a carnuaba guy. I plan on placing the nanner next to my current treatment on Romi's bonnet to see how it fairs.
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I have multiple test areas planned, 1/4 of the roof, a front fender and part of the boot.

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Hydro is pretty rad; but I wouldn't classify it as "long lasting".
that's because you probably only have one or two apps on it.
it will hold better after the 3rd app.
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^^ ... and if that doesn't work try a fourth or fifth application.
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^^ and then you'll be like minimaybee buying Hydro by the barrels.
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Rut Roh. Here we go again.
No here we go... trust me, I've been through this before.

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I don't think it is meant to be long lasting, great stuff though, kind of like a QD on steroids.

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I agree. Like Z8. It's awesome for what it is; a qd with some protection.

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that's because you probably only have one or two apps on it.
it will hold better after the 3rd app.
I don't use it on my car. I use it on customer cars as a maintenance product. My point was that as a standalone LSP it isn't long lasting. That isn't a bad thing, it isn't intended to be a long lasting LSP, that is what EPIC is for. HYDRO is a qd with some polymers in it, so it provides a couple weeks protection and slickness. It does that well; but it's purpose is not to be a standalone LSP. I assume Banana Gas is, which is why I said it would be cool if it was an LSP that could be applied in the sun on trim and last a long time - that hasn't been done yet afaik.

FWIW, I give every product a fair shake, and I try *a lot* of them. When I say something like "Hydro isn't long lasting" that isn't me taking a shot at the product; that's me telling you exactly what my experience with it has been. Hyrdo, like Z8 or Carnuaba Jett or Aquawax or Nanowax or Quick Finish or Field Glaze are all sealant/wax *boosters*, none of them are intended to last for months at a time.
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I'll have to ask the same question as Lotsie... which question?

I don't have any PMs from you.

If you emailed your question to Nick's email with anything about Banana Gas in the subject line then you'll need to redirect it to me (or to Nick but with something else in the subject line). Any Banana Gas sample requests are being processed en mass and no replies will be sent... just the sample!

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Hydro is pretty rad; but I wouldn't classify it as "long lasting".
Hydro isn't long lasting relative to the non-spray durable synthetic waxes that are applied the traditional way- wipe on, wipe off style (ie, Epic, Zaino, Sealant Glaze, etc). However, compared to other spray wax products and QDs, it is extremely long lasting. We've tested against all the best sprays!

When used as a wax-as-you-dry (on a wet surface, which causes Hydro to self-dilute), you should be getting about a month of durability out of it.

When used on a dry surface, you will get 2-3 months of durability out of it.

Also, unlike the polymers found in most QDs, Hydro's durability is more than just looks. It offers full protection- just like a traditional non-spray wax.

If you're getting anything less than the above from Hydro, let me know how you're using it. It's easy to use but maybe a tweaking in your app process will fix the results you're seeing.

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Hydro isn't long lasting relative to the non-spray durable synthetic waxes that are applied the traditional way- wipe on, wipe off style (ie, Epic, Zaino, Sealant Glaze, etc). However, compared to other spray wax products and QDs, it is extremely long lasting. We've tested against all the best sprays!

When used as a wax-as-you-dry (on a wet surface, which causes Hydro to self-dilute), you should be getting about a month of durability out of it.

When used on a dry surface, you will get 2-3 months of durability out of it.

Also, unlike the polymers found in most QDs, Hydro's durability is more than just looks. It offers full protection- just like a traditional non-spray wax.

If you're getting anything less than the above from Hydro, let me know how you're using it. It's easy to use but maybe a tweaking in your app process will fix the results you're seeing.

-Heather
I think I am being misunderstood. I agree, for a spray sealant/wax Hydro lasts quite some time. I said, originally, that it "wasn't long lasting", in response to a member mentioning that Prima already had a "long lasting sealant" called Hydro. I hope this is more clear.

My original question/comment was that it would be cool if Banana Gas offered long lasting protection (in the style of other wipe on/wipe off synthetics) while also being sun & trim safe. As far as I know there is no other sun & trim safe sealant that is as long lasting as non sun safe sealants.
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I think I am being misunderstood. I agree, for a spray sealant/wax Hydro lasts quite some time. I said, originally, that it "wasn't long lasting", in response to a member mentioning that Prima already had a "long lasting sealant" called Hydro. I hope this is more clear.

My original question/comment was that it would be cool if Banana Gas offered long lasting protection (in the style of other wipe on/wipe off synthetics) while also being sun & trim safe. As far as I know there is no other sun & trim safe sealant that is as long lasting as non sun safe sealants.
Ah-ha... gotcha now! I did misunderstand. Thanks for clarifying for me!

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Banana Wow !!!!

Hello Heather & Nick,

Thanks for the fast shipment. I should have known, you always ship fast.

As luck would have it I had washed my MINI yesterday & today I got a cute little box in the mail. Yep a banana box.

I spent an hour in the garage bananaing my MINI. I think you should call it Banana Wow. (sorry Richard )

It was 52 degrees in my garage when I started & 50 when I finished. It dried & hazed up pretty fast for such a cold temp. It was very easy to apply with a foam pad & wiped right off with a monster fluffy. All in all I'm happy with the results. It doesn't seem to clean much, but my car was clean, so that was hard to really tell. As for staying power, dad always told me "easy on easy off", time will tell. The best thing about Banana Wow is that it comes right off the black trim.
I'll post back in a couple of weeks & let you know how it's holding up.

As a member of the Old Fart Motoring Club & a LAME member I endorse the use of this easy to use Banana wonder juice.

LAME = Lazy @$$ MINI Enthusiast

Thanks for the sample.
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