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Has any one tweaked a mini cooper to get 0-60 in less than 8 with out using a turbo. I would like to get mine in this range. I have done nothing yet. I would realy like to have more power off the line.
That's a tough one. Are you concerned with warranty issues?
If not:
Intake
Exhaust
Header
Hotwires
Flywheel
Quaife
ECU upgrade
Camshaft
Extrude honed head and intake
Ultra light wheels
Of course, this will cost you. If you just want the best out of your MINI without causing warranty issues, here is what I recommend:
Intake
Exhaust
Hotwires
Ultra light wheels
This won't get you under eight seconds most likely, but it will be more pleasing to the ears, and feel better seat of the pants - isn't that what's important?
"HAMANN Recalibrating of the ECU and fitting of a sports air filter
Performance tuning to about 120 hp / 88 kW and about 20 Nm torque increase for Mini One. V/max about 191 km/h
Performance tuning to about 128 hp / 94 kW and about 12 Nm torque increase for Mini Cooper. V/max about 210 km/h
HAMANN SPORTKIT CS1 for Mini Cooper S. Performance tuning to about 195 hp / 145 kW. Torque increase about 41 Nm. V/max 227 km/h. Consisting of: Recalibrating of the ECU, modified supercharger transmission-ratio and sports air filter.
HAMANN SPORTKIT CS2 for Mini Cooper S. Performance tuning to about 201 hp / 148 kW. Torque increase about 42 Nm. V/max 227 km/h. Consisting of: Recalibrating of the ECU, modified supercharger transmission-ratio, sports air filter and HAMANN sports rear silencer.
HAMANN SPORTKIT CS3 for Mini Cooper S. Performance tuning to about 206 hp / 151 kW. Torque increase about 43 Nm. V/max 228 km/h. Consisting of: Recalibrating of the ECU, modified supercharger transmission-ratio, sports air filter, HAMANN sports exhaust manifold and HAMANN sports rear silencer.
HAMANN SPORTKIT CS4 for Mini Cooper S. Performance tuning to about 211 hp / 155 kW. Torque increase about 45 Nm. V/max 229 km/h. Consisting of: Recalibrating of the ECU, modified supercharger transmission-ratio, sports air filter, HAMANN sports exhaust manifold, HAMANN sports pre-muffler including sports metal-bed catalyst and HAMANN sports rear silencer."
You standard MC owners are funny. Why spend thousands on aftermarket stuff when you should have just bought an S in the first place?
well I bought an MCS and really I can't tell that much difference in the MC till higher speeds and over 4K rpms.....a second faster 0 to 60 is not that big a deal to me...if I had it to do over I'd buy the MC and do a few mods to keep the spare tire and not have the awful runflats which I have already replaced.....my question to BMW is how they only managed 163 hp with almost 200lb weight gain in the MCS when the MC can get 200hp with a Turbo addition.....why the supercharger in the MCS instead of a 200+hp turbo MCS...now that would have been worth buying, laugh!
When (if) the RS comes out, my little MINI and me will kiss, and say our goodbys, because nothing will keep me off THAT wait list. Man oh man....watch out SRT-4!
nice reply diamond....what mods did you do to your mini and did you do them all at once or over time and what have you found to be the priority of making these mods and if you don't mind me asking how expensive are some of the mods you made...and what is your take on performance boosts from ECU tuning, air intake, catback, etc....thanks
You mcs owners are funny. Why spend thousands of dollars on aftermarket stuff when you should have baught an "S" in the first place... OH wait you did
I agree to your approach of tuning the entire car. I think my list included both a total hp package, and a warranty friendly package.
I do have to address the intake issue. Filters DO make a difference on a supercharged car, PERIOD. There is no debating this - several dynos have been used to verify this fact, and the track times don't lie (I have done extensive testing on track, as I am a performance seeker as well).
I also believe that as long as a product has been evaluated, why not offer it to the market? Let the folks decide if they can install it or have someone install it for them. It doesn't sound very kosher to have things available that you won't offer because you worry about the ability of the customer to install it.
As far as the dyno runs, I completely agree that you can get a dyno to tell you anything you want to hear. That's why I have been doing track testing, installations, autocrossing, and using objective dyno numbers for comparisons. I have yet to see the "torque drop off" after 30 minutes (unless you aren't providing sufficient cooling - just like the car would have while motoring around).
To me, performance means a balance. That includes things like swaybars, headers, head replacements, intakes, cams, ECU mods, exhaust systems, braking systems, all in a balanced form. If you do a lot of development with the motor, you also need to address the handling (a big part of that is at least the rear swaybar) and the braking as well. That is what I am developing.
I do caution against parts redistributors, who have no testing or experience with the parts they offer. In my experience with the MINI market, there hasn't been a lot of that yet. BMP (PROMINI), Helix, Turner, MINI-Madness, and others seem to really be doing the homework on what they offer. I'm sure as the market increases, you probably will see those out there who just carry as much as they can - even the knick knack type stuff - just to sell something.
I'd like a chance to run against your car in full race mode though - that would be a good test I like your approach of using timing and braking results. That's been one of my goals in testing lately; to see what the whole package has to offer in a comparative lap time on the track. We have been amazed at some of the differences. The dyno numbers do seem to correlate to the lap times though - but it has been good to see that in a real world test.
I would like to continue the relationship that we started at the beginning of my business, so let me know if you would like any evaluations done here at the track and autocross course. I think the evaluation process MINI-Motorsport uses is second to none - installation ease and fit, street driving, autocross, and track testing, as well as independent dyno results.
Let me know if you would like to continue in developing your products.
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I think what diamond is saying is you don't get 19hp gains from an exhaust or another 10 hp gains from an air intake...some of the claims being made are ridiculous....I do think the overall balance of the car's performance does make sense....even though I have an MCS, I have driven a tuned MC that was definitely quicker than mine and handled dramatically better and I'm sure there wasn't a 40hp gain in the tuned MC....Diamond sounds like my kind of tuner....
Speaking from experience (8,000 miles with the stock airbox and now nearly 11,000 miles with the MINI Madness Cooper S intake installed), the air intake absolutely DOES make power and does NOT loose low end torque.
I installed my MINI Madness intake back in August and have driven it in a variety of conditions from hot August weather to some early mornings here in Denver in the single digits. It flat out makes power compared to stock. With just the intake, I was able to chirp my run-flat tires more easily (that is a demonstration of a torque gain). Anyone who viewed the video comparison of the MINI Madness intake to the stock airbox that ficcion put together would have noticed that much. The MINI Cooper S does suffer from its restrictive stock intake. The supercharger wants more air and the MINI Madness intake provides that with a larger filter area.
>>Example: Our CVT's bounce off the Speed limiter in 5th gear. (The CVT has 6 gears in manual. Once you shift from 6th to normal automatic your RPM's drop about 1000. So, we really have 7 gears. Or what I call 6 with an over drive.) The rev limiter kits in at 2300 instead of 4000 because of the increased engine performance.
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>>I know for a fact when I am running my car in race mode, I can smoke most S's. It is not because of RAW HP it is because of my cars over all performance.
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This gives me much more hope for the performance gains of my CVT Cooper than I have had to this point! ...Now, if only I had the budget to afford these kinds of mods!
>>Welcome to MCO!
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>>I'm sure diamini will get you an answer as soon as he sees your post. In the meantime, enjoy the rest of the info and people on this site!
Thanks! This is a great site; one of the best car-oriented sites that I visit!
Staying on the threads topic, I just ordered some nice lightweight wheels; SSR Comps and "normal" tires. As suggested in beginning of this thread, lighter wheels will make a BIG difference in performance and feel of the car. I can't believe the stock wheels that came with my MCS weight 25lbs! The 17" Comps only weigh 13.5 lbs; that is a huge improvement.
Having modified many cars in the past (see my other toys at Beetle and M3; yes, my MCS is also red
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