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Old 03-20-2010, 12:27 PM
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what is the difference between all of the calssic minis ?

hi,
Please i want to know the difference between all of the classical Minis
from the first model to the last classical model
difference in engine, Exterior, Interior, and options
because i saw a lot of classical Minis and i can't know the model of each one
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Buy the book "Original Mini Cooper & Cooper S" by John Parnell
They call it the mini bible.
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that is one big question
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Really it's a great topic
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Buy the book "Original Mini Cooper & Cooper S" by John Parnell
They call it the mini bible.
Thank you, i will try to find this book

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that is one big question
Yes, and difficult to answer too
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Buy the book "Original Mini Cooper & Cooper S" by John Parnell
They call it the mini bible.

Not sure who they are; it might be a Cooper bible but I suspect not a Mini bible unless the title is quite inaccurate. Many a Mini is not a Cooper . . . Copper and Cooper S having been produced from 61 thru 71 (the later Rover Cooper nor our MINI Cooper not included)

I'm not familiar with Parnell's book, but Walton's 1983 Mini Cooper & S only covers the Cooper years aside from a brief history leading up to the Cooper. Nothing after 71 is mentioned but there sure were a lot of Minis made after that! I suspect (Parnell) is an excellent Cooper reference but way short on the rest of the production . . . . A book on the Cooper and S is only going to cover 10 years of production of a limited edition Mini in those years. Albiet the very popular nearly mythical model . . . but far from the common model.

Not every 66 Mustang is a Shelby either . . . at car shows I proudly label my 79 "not a Cooper" ... it starts many conversations.

Another history source: http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?ado15ado50f.htm
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[quote.

Not every 66 Mustang is a Shelby either . . . at car shows I proudly label my 79 "not a Cooper" ... it starts many conversations.

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I am with you on that Capt. Its not that I hate it but I respect the coopers and I want people to know what my car is. It seems with the new minis that more people try to get cute and call mine a cooper. Then I say nope its just a mini.
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Buy the book "Original Mini Cooper & Cooper S" by John Parnell
They call it the mini bible.

Not sure who they are; it might be a Cooper bible but I suspect not a Mini bible unless the title is quite inaccurate. Many a Mini is not a Cooper . . . Copper and Cooper S having been produced from 61 thru 71 (the later Rover Cooper nor our MINI Cooper not included)

I'm not familiar with Parnell's book, but Walton's 1983 Mini Cooper & S only covers the Cooper years aside from a brief history leading up to the Cooper. Nothing after 71 is mentioned but there sure were a lot of Minis made after that! I suspect (Parnell) is an excellent Cooper reference but way short on the rest of the production . . . . A book on the Cooper and S is only going to cover 10 years of production of a limited edition Mini in those years. Albiet the very popular nearly mythical model . . . but far from the common model.

Not every 66 Mustang is a Shelby either . . . at car shows I proudly label my 79 "not a Cooper" ... it starts many conversations.

Another history source: http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?ado15ado50f.htm
Okay I stand corrected. Parnells book doesn't really get to deep but as far as Cooper S's he does make the effort.
I often said if mine wasn't a cooper s I wouldn't have time for it.
Check my blog and you would understand why.
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Buy the book "Original Mini Cooper & Cooper S" by John Parnell
They call it the mini bible.

Not sure who they are; it might be a Cooper bible but I suspect not a Mini bible unless the title is quite inaccurate. Many a Mini is not a Cooper . . . Copper and Cooper S having been produced from 61 thru 71 (the later Rover Cooper nor our MINI Cooper not included)

I'm not familiar with Parnell's book, but Walton's 1983 Mini Cooper & S only covers the Cooper years aside from a brief history leading up to the Cooper. Nothing after 71 is mentioned but there sure were a lot of Minis made after that! I suspect (Parnell) is an excellent Cooper reference but way short on the rest of the production . . . . A book on the Cooper and S is only going to cover 10 years of production of a limited edition Mini in those years. Albiet the very popular nearly mythical model . . . but far from the common model.

Not every 66 Mustang is a Shelby either . . . at car shows I proudly label my 79 "not a Cooper" ... it starts many conversations.

Another history source: http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?ado15ado50f.htm
Thank you very much
you are incredible
i only have one more question
the 1979 mini
is this call mini cooper, mini austin, mini rover, or mini cooper ?
I'm confused
and please could you tell me the specification of the 1300 motor ?
hours power, torque, max speed, acceleration, fuel consumption ?
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You can also check out http://ukclassicparts.com

Click on "Brief history of the Mini".
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You can also check out http://ukclassicparts.com

Click on "Brief history of the Mini".
Thank you very much
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only have one more question
the 1979 mini
is this call mini cooper, mini austin, mini rover, or mini cooper ?

Again, a complicated question

In 1979 there were several different models of Mini available, but no Cooper or Cooper S. Saloon 850 and 1000 and the 1275 GT according to the owner's literature I have (UK models) oh, and the Clubman. Mine began life as a Saloon 1000, 1000 being a rounded off engine size which was actually just shy of 1000cc.

But the real answer to your question lies in the fact that as time progessed two significant things happened - well way more than 2 but for purposes here:

a) In the very first introduction of what was to become Mini, there were already two companies producing the car, Austin (the Seven), and Morris (Mini Minor). Later this grew significantly with many companies, in many countries, producing the car at varying levels. Some assembling parts from the UK, others producing nearly the entire thing locally and just about everything in between.

b) As the car got popular with the buyers, confusion began to creep in about who made the darn thing and a decision was made to just drop any reference to Austin or Morris or what ever and just badge it Mini. Buyers were looking for Mini and could then more easily find it. Over the years if we just look at Austin and Morris, they became one company which also had BMC umbrella....then Leyland comes to play at some time and later yet Rover.

This is not an accurate history or timeline but you get the idea.

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only have one more question
the 1979 mini
is this call mini cooper, mini austin, mini rover, or mini cooper ?

Again, a complicated question

In 1979 there were several different models of Mini available, but no Cooper or Cooper S. Saloon 850 and 1000 and the 1275 GT according to the owner's literature I have (UK models) oh, and the Clubman. Mine began life as a Saloon 1000, 1000 being a rounded off engine size which was actually just shy of 1000cc.

But the real answer to your question lies in the fact that as time progessed two significant things happened - well way more than 2 but for purposes here:

a) In the very first introduction of what was to become Mini, there were already two companies producing the car, Austin (the Seven), and Morris (Mini Minor). Later this grew significantly with many companies, in many countries, producing the car at varying levels. Some assembling parts from the UK, others producing nearly the entire thing locally and just about everything in between.

b) As the car got popular with the buyers, confusion began to creep in about who made the darn thing and a decision was made to just drop any reference to Austin or Morris or what ever and just badge it Mini. Buyers were looking for Mini and could then more easily find it. Over the years if we just look at Austin and Morris, they became one company which also had BMC umbrella....then Leyland comes to play at some time and later yet Rover.

This is not an accurate history or timeline but you get the idea.

and I've removed all the badges....

we don't need no stinkin' badges
Thank you very much
i really knew many new things
Thanks's
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And if you REALLY want to get confused:

Not a Cooper or even a Mini, but still a Mini, sort of.
Amazing how many people ask me "Is that a Cooper?" Nope, it's a Riley Elf.
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