Neglect & Abuse of a MINI
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Neglect & Abuse of a MINI
Is this a bad sign?
"We must have been drinking when we ordered it."
Convenience Package
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Sport Package
17" Web Spoke Wheels
Lifetime Satellite Radio
Aerodynamic Kit
etc.. etc... etc.. (lots of little extras)
Well, when a couple purchases a 2008 MINI Clubman S with enough options to hit $34,800, the expected reasoning is not to save a few dollars on gas. As it was "just not the same" as her Lexus, the owner kept driving her Lexus while the MINI sat around for the most part. The car was only driven about 10,200 Miles. It seems to have functioned as "home base" during games of tag as evidenced by a few dings on each side.
It had not been washed for at least the past 3 years.
IT NEVER HAD AN OIL CHANGE AFTER PURCHASE.
Actually, it never received any kind of maintenance. Well, I have to assume oil was added to the engine occasionally as it was 1/2 quart low and not bone dry. Also, the rear floor mats were well lubricated with lolipop sticks and bits of melted candy.
I purchased it a few weeks ago, tagged it Friday and Changed the Oil Saturday. The car's window sticker shows it was printed in 200808004. Friday 4/6/13, @ 10,496 Miles, was was the car's first oilchange.
Godspeed little buddy.
/ HORRIBLE armrest removed
// Stock Side Scuttles re-installed
/// Chrome Hood scoop removed
// Timing chain tensioner on order
/ PCV blanking caps on order
"We must have been drinking when we ordered it."
Convenience Package
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Sport Package
17" Web Spoke Wheels
Lifetime Satellite Radio
Aerodynamic Kit
etc.. etc... etc.. (lots of little extras)
Well, when a couple purchases a 2008 MINI Clubman S with enough options to hit $34,800, the expected reasoning is not to save a few dollars on gas. As it was "just not the same" as her Lexus, the owner kept driving her Lexus while the MINI sat around for the most part. The car was only driven about 10,200 Miles. It seems to have functioned as "home base" during games of tag as evidenced by a few dings on each side.
It had not been washed for at least the past 3 years.
IT NEVER HAD AN OIL CHANGE AFTER PURCHASE.
Actually, it never received any kind of maintenance. Well, I have to assume oil was added to the engine occasionally as it was 1/2 quart low and not bone dry. Also, the rear floor mats were well lubricated with lolipop sticks and bits of melted candy.
I purchased it a few weeks ago, tagged it Friday and Changed the Oil Saturday. The car's window sticker shows it was printed in 200808004. Friday 4/6/13, @ 10,496 Miles, was was the car's first oilchange.
Godspeed little buddy.
/ HORRIBLE armrest removed
// Stock Side Scuttles re-installed
/// Chrome Hood scoop removed
// Timing chain tensioner on order
/ PCV blanking caps on order
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#5
Not so darned sure I wouldn't just change everything resembling a fluid if that is the kind of behavior the previous owners displayed. I'd even change the blinker fluid. Anybody who'd leave sticky all over the place...well...
I hope your li'l guy responds appreciatively to your kind ministrations.
I hope your li'l guy responds appreciatively to your kind ministrations.
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+1 on inspecting the oil. A couple oil changes might be in order.
Inspect air filter, old oil filter, check coolant level & coolant. If its been sitting for a long time. I would go through the whole car to make sure everything is ok. Glad you are bringing back to life.
Do you have other pics the links are not showing?
Inspect air filter, old oil filter, check coolant level & coolant. If its been sitting for a long time. I would go through the whole car to make sure everything is ok. Glad you are bringing back to life.
Do you have other pics the links are not showing?
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I know it may be potentially rude to ask, but one has to wonder how much you paid for it...?
I'm surprised less by the neglect (although c'mon - all they had to do was take it in and the maintenance was covered) than by the fact that they didn't at least get the oil changed and clean the thing before trying to sell it. Must be nice to have money to flush down the toilet...
I'm surprised less by the neglect (although c'mon - all they had to do was take it in and the maintenance was covered) than by the fact that they didn't at least get the oil changed and clean the thing before trying to sell it. Must be nice to have money to flush down the toilet...
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jasonsmf - 10K miles on a regular oil change is not that big a deal. 10K miles on the break-in oil concerns me. It has a slight bit of engine chatter upon startup but it sounds more like lifters and the head than it does from the timing chain.
grueinthebox - I hoped for the best and pretty much paid book value for it ~$18,900. The risk is still there but the potential reward is getting an almost $35K car with just a little wear.
There is still a lot of short-term work for the MINI. The Bently Manual and oil were the first items purchased for the car. Somehow, a wiper blade purchase was overlooked. I just buy cheap ones and change them every 6 months or so. All wipers begin to degrade in a few months.
PCV blanking caps and a timing chain tensioner are on order. It still needs a serious bubble bath, interior detail, and wheel scrubbing. All the door sills have a ton of dust and some of the plastic trim around the car has begun to dry - it needs protectant ASAP.
An OCC for the remaining PCV looks promising. Also, the Sea Foam fogger looks spiffy but I can't really call it "necessary". I'd like to eventually get a better intake but do not want an oiled foam. Anyway - we'll see where it leads.
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grueinthebox - I hoped for the best and pretty much paid book value for it ~$18,900. The risk is still there but the potential reward is getting an almost $35K car with just a little wear.
There is still a lot of short-term work for the MINI. The Bently Manual and oil were the first items purchased for the car. Somehow, a wiper blade purchase was overlooked. I just buy cheap ones and change them every 6 months or so. All wipers begin to degrade in a few months.
PCV blanking caps and a timing chain tensioner are on order. It still needs a serious bubble bath, interior detail, and wheel scrubbing. All the door sills have a ton of dust and some of the plastic trim around the car has begun to dry - it needs protectant ASAP.
An OCC for the remaining PCV looks promising. Also, the Sea Foam fogger looks spiffy but I can't really call it "necessary". I'd like to eventually get a better intake but do not want an oiled foam. Anyway - we'll see where it leads.
Figure out what's going on here and win a cookie:
#11
Poor MINI :(. Brave man! With that amount of neglect, I'm sure it was not broken in correctly. Hope either they did break it in correctly or there are no long term issues associated with an incorrect breakin. Hope you got a great deal because that is the only way I would have jumped in to save this MINI.
Please report back with the oil analysis!
Please report back with the oil analysis!
#12
I believe in the Motoman Break-in method. I'm SURE the OP didn't give it that type of break-in or he would have changed the oil the first day. Speaking of break-in, I was REALLY surprised these cars come equipped with Synth oil.
Does Peugot do some sort of break-in at the factory with Dino oil and then switch to Synth?
Does Peugot do some sort of break-in at the factory with Dino oil and then switch to Synth?
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+1 I am glad to see a "bring back to life" build thread.
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Any progress or update?
Thanks
Any progress or update?
Thanks
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And while I'm here typing, any updates?
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