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Old 08-30-2007, 07:31 PM
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R56 brakes = R53 JCW brakes?

Are the r56 brakes the same as the r53 jcw brakes without the painting and labels?
 
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:10 PM
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Are the r56 brakes the same as the r53 jcw brakes without the painting and labels?
The JCW brakes are the same as what is currently on the R56 MCS hardtop (sans the red and the JCW logo).
 
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sweet i just got a pair of rotors, calipers, pads for 50 bucks +25 for shipping
 
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:44 PM
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sweet i just got a pair of rotors, calipers, pads for 50 bucks +25 for shipping
Well done
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:12 AM
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That is pretty sweet. Well done +1.

They're a pretty good improvement over the stockers
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:42 AM
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I plan on cleaning the calipers and painting them a nice red color. Then getting some ceramic pads, some ss brake lines & some super blue fluid and I should be good to go. I sure do love Ebay. I now have almost the complete JCW package. lol
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:49 AM
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good deal. however, pad selection is currently very limited. ask anyone who tracks their JCW.
 
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Will R56 front brakes fit on a 1st Gen MINI with M12 wheels bolts?
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:10 AM
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Will R56 front brakes fit on a 1st Gen MINI with M12 wheels bolts?
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Will R56 front brakes fit on a 1st Gen MINI with M12 wheels bolts?
I'm not 100% sure but i would say no. I think you would need these to make it work.

http://www.txwerks.com/servlet/Detail?no=42
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by minimusprime

I'm not 100% sure but i would say no. I think you would need these to make it work.

http://www.txwerks.com/servlet/Detail?no=42
That kit converts M14 to M12
 
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:06 PM
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292 vs 294 mm.

No they are not the same. Maybe they go to the car but the disc aren't the same!!!
 
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:43 AM
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also, i believe the pad is differnt as well...
 
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IMHO, there are many brake upgrades for the R53 that are better than the R56 "upgrade". better choice of sizes for wheel fitment and much better pad selection at this point. if you are feeling the oem love, then go for it.
 
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisher

292 vs 294 mm.

No they are not the same.
The brake discs in the 1st Gen JCW Brake Kit and on the R56 MCS are both 294x22.
 
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:53 AM
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I guess that answer the question. Good Job!

Yeah there are better options out there for brake upgrades, but not for 50 bucks
 

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:03 PM
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Sorry, my bad.

Everywhere I have looked until now was 292 mm.
 
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Synigod, any update on fitting the R56 brakes to the R53?
 
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i just got a set also. talking to dan from grass roots, they are the same as R53 JCW. the pads are the same. the only difference is the holes on the rotor for the lugs are bigger. i think i'm planning on getting some bushings made to fit the smaller lugs.<---not needed(edited post)
 

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Old 09-26-2007, 02:29 AM
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Hi Guys,
So has anyone fitted the R56 brakes yet?
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:08 AM
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stu(pid), i have not done it yet, because i'm la(zy). but i have made a "discovery". i will not be needing to put bushings in the larger lug holes. when doing a brake job on a honda oddysey i noticed that after removing the 2 tiny screws that hold the rotor to the hub, i could (after whacking it with a hammer to free it from the hub) actually move the rotor about 1mm radially in either direction. this means that the lugs (or studs in this case) do not actually hold the rotor in place, it is simply the friction of the rotor/hub mating surface. the wheel squeezes the rotor hard enough to prevent it from moving.

so now, all i need to get is some good pads and i can slap them on there.
 

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Old 09-26-2007, 05:24 AM
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Thanks Sonichris, maybe I should start looking at getting some R56 calipers and disks...
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:23 AM
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just make sure they are from an S. the regular r56 will not work.
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:11 AM
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Thanks Chris. I didn't know that it had to be S brakes - I thought all models shared the same like the R53 R50 etc.
 
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ok, i just put one side on to test fit. they fit perfect.

**but you need the brake lines from the R56!**

the R53 (at least mine) has the brake line fitting on the rear of the caliper, the R56 has it on top. this will not work.

so i just need some lines. anybody have any laying around?

i will post pics if you guys want...
 


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