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ya i think i am giving it enough time. I think i will give it another go tomorrow when i have more time. My though may be that i am using too much. ( you need a fair amount of megs to get a good result ) as far as the pads go, it is not a PC but a real old one. Still same idea but all the pads are white for it. (applicator / fine, medium, agressive buffing pads etc. ) never had a problem before but like i said i am just familiar with prima. Not knocking it cause it does work well, i just need to get used to it. Thanx for the help so far
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