Yep, like mini_dreams said--the Meguiar's Quik Clay system includes two little cars of clay, Quik Detailer lubricant, and even a Supreme Shine Microfiber towel to wipe it all off with. It's not a bad deal. Most consumer clays are very similar, the difference being in consistency. The DP clay is very hard and takes too much muscle in my fingers to knead it. I don't like clay that hard--it makes me not want to knead the clay often which is important to always exposing clean clay and not scratch your paint. But because I bought so much 12+ bars, I'm trying to LIKE it.

I find that pulling it like taffy and forcing it together, and then pulling and twisting is much easier than trying to knead it.
You'll want to get my DVD if you want to learn how to clay your paint plus learn 50+ other techniques. Most people who use clay for the first time don't use it right. They don't press hard enough, or use enough lube, or use it on a hot surface, etc...
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Originally Posted by Sin MINI
Recommendations for clay? Do I need a spray lubricant to go with it? I plan to go by Pep Boys this week to pick up some.
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That would be my recommendation as well.

Available from places like Walmart, Target, Pep Boys, Kragen, AutoZone, etc...
But for me Slick is too expensive to use as a clay lubricant. While it may work well, I prefer to use the cheaper stuff like the Meguiar's Quik Detailer, and reserve my Slick for final paint care--this is of course my own opinion on taking care of my MINI.
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Originally Posted by mini_dreams
the clay i've used and that I like (and I'm very much a newbie) came from this kit, which I got at a local auto parts store:
http://www.meguiars.com/?auto-detail...rface-Clay-Kit
it comes with Meguiar's Quik Detailer for lubricant, which I used for a while, but have since replaced with Prima Slick. Both work well, I just like the shine that Slick gives the paint a bit more. I found this clay pretty easy to use.
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Everyone provided good advice here. One more thing to add. The Porter Cable polisher with a foam pad is going to physically take off any old wax on the paint. That's why we polish with a paint cleaner. It removes the swirls as well as anything in the paint.
We start with Clay Bar to remove anything bonded to the top of the paint, then proceed to polish the paint to remove physical defects like swirls, and etchings and things have seemed into the paint. Then we wax it to protect the paint and all the work we've done.
So while Dawn and other chemicals could be used for stripping Carnuba waxes or maybe sealents, there's always the old standby of using the PC polisher!
Richard
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Originally Posted by homerwest
Another dumb question - for a 3 month old car, should I use dawn dish detergent prior to amigo/epic application? I seem to remember reading that the harshness takes off whatever the factory or dealer might have applied to make the new stuff grip better....
Thanks again!
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